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While the OP raises some interesting points, I don't the situation is quite as simple as it is laid out. Cancer has a multitude of causes and forms- I doubt a simple cure will ever be possible, the best hope is good treatment. HIV/AIDS is a similar situation the virus is constantly mutating. F@H could lead to better treatments.

Ultimately I think the best treatment for these types of diseases might be nanites (microscopic machines) patrolling our bodies assisting our immune system to identify and remove malfunctioning cells (cancer) or foreign invaders. A wetware 'antivirus'.
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post #12 of 49
OP you're argument is very economics based and as such I will try and address it in an economic context.

Let's go to basics, a corporation's sole goal is to create wealth for it's shareholders. Simple as that. Where this wealth comes from, more or less, is irrelevant to most shareholders, board members and directors.

One thing you don't address in your post is competition. This is the backbone of any economy. It is not in the best interest of pharmaceutical companies to hinder research in to possible new cures for diseases as patenting anything remotely close to a cure for cancer will result in billions in revenue for the respective company, which in turn will give them a competitive edge and in turn cause the competitors to invest more in to R&D so they can compete etc etc.

Your ideas are bordering on conspiracy; but let's say you are right and the Masons and the Illuminati rule the world in a evil way and the royal families of the world are all in on it and governments of the world are all run by corporations etc; when all that is said and done, what is stopping a team of researchers at a university using the F@H data to discover a vaccine or cure for something and publishing their findings?
post #13 of 49
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Originally Posted by hirolla888 View Post
OP you're argument is very economics based and as such I will try and address it in an economic context.

Let's go to basics, a corporation's sole goal is to create wealth for it's shareholders. Simple as that. Where this wealth comes from, more or less, is irrelevant to most shareholders, board members and directors.

One thing you don't address in your post is competition. This is the backbone of any economy. It is not in the best interest of pharmaceutical companies to hinder research in to possible new cures for diseases as patenting anything remotely close to a cure for cancer will result in billions in revenue for the respective company, which in turn will give them a competitive edge and in turn cause the competitors to invest more in to R&D so they can compete etc etc.

Your ideas are bordering on conspiracy; but let's say you are right and the Masons and the Illuminati rule the world in a evil way and the royal families of the world are all in on it and governments of the world are all run by corporations etc; when all that is said and done, what is stopping a team of researchers at a university using the F@H data to discover a vaccine or cure for something and publishing their findings?

Yeah, I was just going to say this.
They're free to publish any advancement that may come out of the F@H project and it's sponsored by the National Institutes of Health and the National Science Foundation so hopefully they'd do the right thing, it's not like a corporation's calling the shots anyway.
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post #14 of 49
@OP:So are you trying to say you'd rather spend that extra lifetime your computer has playing Crysis that trying to contribute to something that will help us prevent or study diseases that could save lives?
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@OP:So are you trying to say you'd rather spend that extra lifetime your computer has playing Crysis that trying to contribute to something that will help us prevent or study diseases that could save lives?
Oh you gotta love the way folding fanboys try put on you.
    
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post #16 of 49
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No need to be sarcastic, instead you could think about it for a moment.
Goes SETI@HOME against any industry interests? No. Therefore, its not the same situation with that.
I apologize for the sarcasm. Thought about it and have come to the conclusion that virtually everything goes against some industry interest.
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post #17 of 49
Are you thinking that the "end of cancer" will be a $3.00 pill you take one time? I do not think it is going to work out like that.
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post #18 of 49
I only red half of it and I'm going to make a guess: You vote for the Republicans/Conservatives? "Let's not save millions of live cause a billionair won't be so rich anymore". That's the most stupid thing I ever heard.
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Look. Another one of these threads.
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post #20 of 49
big pharma and the healthcare industry are screwing (in bed, lol) and screwed up in many many ways, but that is not going to get in the way of science

purpose is NOT to "cure cancer" or any specific disease.. folding is simply helping to speed up basic research (applicable to everything FFS) via distributed parallel computing.

no one is forcing anyone to "waste electricity"... i dont even fold continuously because, dun dun dun, i.do.not.want.to. see, simple answer, no need to don a retarded tin foil hat to justify it.

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Accurate simulations of protein folding and misfolding enable the scientific community to better understand the development of many diseases, including sickle-cell disease (drepanocytosis), Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease, Bovine spongiform encephalopathy, cancer, Huntington's disease, cystic fibrosis, osteogenesis imperfecta, alpha 1-antitrypsin deficiency, and other aggregation-related diseases.[5] More fundamentally, understanding the process of protein folding — how biological molecules assemble themselves into a functional state — is one of the outstanding problems of molecular biology. So far, the Folding@home project has successfully simulated folding in the 1.5 millisecond range[6] — which is a simulation thousands of times longer than it was previously thought possible to model, and millions of times longer than ever previously achieved.[7]
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