Overclock.net › Forums › Intel › Intel - General › Gaming build help
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Gaming build help

post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 
hey everyone i am new to this site and also to building a computer i am not buying each section but buying from cyberpowerpc
here is what i was looking at

Case:Azza Solano 1000 Full-Tower Advance Cooling Case w/ Dual 230mm Fan + Extra 3 Fans

CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-2600K 3.40 GHz 8M Intel Smart Cache LGA1155 (All Venom OC Certified)

HDD: 500GB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD [-59] (500GB x 2 (1 TB Capacity) Raid 0 Extreme Performance [+37])

MEMORY: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Module [+10] (Kingston HyperX)

MOTHERBOARD: [CrossFireX/SLI] Asus Sabertooth P67 w/ TUF Thermal Armor Intel P67 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ UEFI, DIGI+VRM, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, USB3.0, 4x SATA-III RAID, 2 Gen2 PCIe, 3 PCIe X1 & 1 PCI [B3 Stepping] [+136]

SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO

VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB 16X PCIe Video Card (EVGA Superclocked)

Cooling Fan: CyberPower Xtreme Hydro Liquid Cooling Kit 240MM w/ Dual Fan(CPU & GPU Liquid Cool Capable, Extreme Overclcking Performance + Extreme Slient at 18dBA)

tell me what you think that is $1532 and not willing to go much higher but anything you can tell me about things that wont work together or other things i should consider please tell me i may want to overclock in a little while so also want it to hold up for that
hurricane
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5-2500K 4.40 GHz Asus Sabertooth P67 w/ TUF Thermal Armor NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 1.5GB (SC) 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Corsair Vengeance 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSKeyboard
500GB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s Asus BC-12B1ST 12X Blu-Ray Combo DVDRW Drive cyborg 
PowerCaseMouse
850 Watts - Corsair CMPSU-850TXV2 Azza Hurrican 2000 Full Tower wow mouse 
  hide details  
Reply
hurricane
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5-2500K 4.40 GHz Asus Sabertooth P67 w/ TUF Thermal Armor NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 1.5GB (SC) 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Corsair Vengeance 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSKeyboard
500GB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s Asus BC-12B1ST 12X Blu-Ray Combo DVDRW Drive cyborg 
PowerCaseMouse
850 Watts - Corsair CMPSU-850TXV2 Azza Hurrican 2000 Full Tower wow mouse 
  hide details  
Reply
post #2 of 26
Well to start off with you can shave $100 off the price straight off the bat by ditching the 2600k for the 2500k. There is absolutely NO benefit for gamers and otherwise casual users to justify the extra $100 for it. There are also rumors that the extra 4 virtual cores can interfere with overclocking and it does produce more heat. It's an amazing CPU but quite simply, you don't need it. It is aimed towards people who work with music and video encoding, and Photoshop etc.

Secondly, since you're not running an SSD you should probably spend the extra what... $20 for a 1TB HDD. 500GB will fill up fast and you'll regret it. I suggest the Samsung Spinpoint F3.

For less money than your Kingston Hyper X you can get better RAM from G.SKILL. Kingston RAM isn't as good as it used to be. I highly recommend this particular kit as it's less expensive and better quality than Kingston.

The Sabertooth P67 is a good board, it's just overpriced and gimmicky. The "TUF" armor is really just a tacky plastic heat trap that you still have buy the fan for. It doesn't work all that well and you're throwing away money for it. Save almost $50 and go for the Asus P8P67 Pro, it's a tried a true board with everything you need and nothing you don't. It's also great OCer.

Taking my advice will save you nearly $175, possibly more.
The Mind Traveler
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-2600k, 4.7 @ 1.390v ASRock Z68 Fatali1ty Pro Gen3 MSI Lightning GTX580 975/2240 @ 1.143 8GB Mushkin Redline DDR3 1600MHz @ 7-8-7-24 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSKeyboard
WD Black 1TB 7200 HDD & Corsair Force GT 120GB SSD LiteOn DVD Burner W/ Lightscribe Windows 7 SP1 x64 Deck Legend Frost Edition 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair AX850 Cooler Master HAF X Razer DeathAdder Black Edition PureTrak Talent 
  hide details  
Reply
The Mind Traveler
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-2600k, 4.7 @ 1.390v ASRock Z68 Fatali1ty Pro Gen3 MSI Lightning GTX580 975/2240 @ 1.143 8GB Mushkin Redline DDR3 1600MHz @ 7-8-7-24 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSKeyboard
WD Black 1TB 7200 HDD & Corsair Force GT 120GB SSD LiteOn DVD Burner W/ Lightscribe Windows 7 SP1 x64 Deck Legend Frost Edition 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair AX850 Cooler Master HAF X Razer DeathAdder Black Edition PureTrak Talent 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3 of 26
Thread Starter 
thanks for the fast reply but that brought up something i meant to ask as well i am new to the ssd thing does it make a big difference in anything is it worth it to upgrade they all just seem so low for a lot of money also i heard about the 2500k but from benchmarks i have seen it shows better with the 2600k thats the only reason i chose that if its not big enough difference can you explain why

also the ram i can only choose between corsier and kingston and kingston hyperx was less money

with the motherboard i chose that one because it had sli and the p8p67 appears to only be crossfire and since i am getting the gtx 570 thought sli just incase i want to upgrade again i am jjust bring it up not arguing just want to understand so i dont waste money

thanks
hurricane
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5-2500K 4.40 GHz Asus Sabertooth P67 w/ TUF Thermal Armor NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 1.5GB (SC) 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Corsair Vengeance 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSKeyboard
500GB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s Asus BC-12B1ST 12X Blu-Ray Combo DVDRW Drive cyborg 
PowerCaseMouse
850 Watts - Corsair CMPSU-850TXV2 Azza Hurrican 2000 Full Tower wow mouse 
  hide details  
Reply
hurricane
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5-2500K 4.40 GHz Asus Sabertooth P67 w/ TUF Thermal Armor NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 1.5GB (SC) 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Corsair Vengeance 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSKeyboard
500GB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s Asus BC-12B1ST 12X Blu-Ray Combo DVDRW Drive cyborg 
PowerCaseMouse
850 Watts - Corsair CMPSU-850TXV2 Azza Hurrican 2000 Full Tower wow mouse 
  hide details  
Reply
post #4 of 26
SSDs are still a little expensive IMO and I would wait another year or so. The real difference between the 2500k and the 2600k is that the 2600k has hyperthreading which somewhat works like having 8 cores instead of 4 (really simplified) but most games wont use more than 3 so it won't provide anything in games.

SLI can be done on nearly any board it just requires a easy hack to allow it. (I think the only reason they don't include it is because of some licensing money they don't want to pay)
Herp
(1 item)
 
  
Other
Dolla Billz Yall! 
  hide details  
Reply
Herp
(1 item)
 
  
Other
Dolla Billz Yall! 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5 of 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by ghosting View Post
i heard about the 2500k but from benchmarks i have seen it shows better with the 2600k thats the only reason i chose that if its not big enough difference can you explain why)
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpu...idge-review/10
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/t...2100-tested/20

better by 3-9fps (negligible), and on some games, the 2500k actually outperforms the 2600k.

The only things you get extra with the 2600k is 2mb of cache, and 4 extra (virtual) threads. You only would use those cores with stuff properly written for more than 4 threads. (video/audio encoding, heavy graphics work) Games use at most 4 threads (right now), so it is $100 more for about 6 fps on average. Not worth it.
Sandbar
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500k @4.2ghz, 1.25v Asrock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 Evga gtx 680 Gskill Ripjaw 4GB PC12800 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
OCZ Vertex 2 60gb/WD Caviar Black 1TB Sony Optaric DVD burner Windows 7 x64 Asus ML239h 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G110 Antec Earthwatts 750w Antec Nine Hundred Two CM Storm Spawn 
Mouse Pad
QcK 
  hide details  
Reply
Sandbar
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500k @4.2ghz, 1.25v Asrock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 Evga gtx 680 Gskill Ripjaw 4GB PC12800 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
OCZ Vertex 2 60gb/WD Caviar Black 1TB Sony Optaric DVD burner Windows 7 x64 Asus ML239h 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G110 Antec Earthwatts 750w Antec Nine Hundred Two CM Storm Spawn 
Mouse Pad
QcK 
  hide details  
Reply
post #6 of 26
Thread Starter 
ok that makes sense but what about futureproofing to make sure that in the nest however long it will still hold up do you think the 2500 will stay with it and will those virtual 4 not be helpful if it ever gets to that point in gaming in the next couple years?
might be a noobish question
hurricane
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5-2500K 4.40 GHz Asus Sabertooth P67 w/ TUF Thermal Armor NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 1.5GB (SC) 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Corsair Vengeance 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSKeyboard
500GB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s Asus BC-12B1ST 12X Blu-Ray Combo DVDRW Drive cyborg 
PowerCaseMouse
850 Watts - Corsair CMPSU-850TXV2 Azza Hurrican 2000 Full Tower wow mouse 
  hide details  
Reply
hurricane
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5-2500K 4.40 GHz Asus Sabertooth P67 w/ TUF Thermal Armor NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 1.5GB (SC) 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Corsair Vengeance 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSKeyboard
500GB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s Asus BC-12B1ST 12X Blu-Ray Combo DVDRW Drive cyborg 
PowerCaseMouse
850 Watts - Corsair CMPSU-850TXV2 Azza Hurrican 2000 Full Tower wow mouse 
  hide details  
Reply
post #7 of 26
Due to the nature of hyperthreading and how it really works even if games did start using more cores they likely wouldn't help or at least not much. Also keep in mind the games that even use 4 cores are pretty uncommon and they tend to be a little ahead of their time. Sadly the general trend right now is to console ports and those will probably never be well enough optimized. So in the lifespan of the CPU not having hyperthreading will likely not limit you.
Herp
(1 item)
 
  
Other
Dolla Billz Yall! 
  hide details  
Reply
Herp
(1 item)
 
  
Other
Dolla Billz Yall! 
  hide details  
Reply
post #8 of 26
I got the 2600k because I was able to get a free mobo/cpu for free as gifts. If I was paying for it myself I would for sure get the 2500k. As mentioned before the main feature of i7 is hyperthreading and is not used with gaming. You would probably see more of a difference if you droped the 2600k and got the 2500k and then upgraded your graphics card to a GTX 580.
My rig
(18 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770k M power EVGA GTX 980 SC G.SKILL Sniper (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 9-9-9-24 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
512GB Samsung 940 Pro h100 Windows 8 Home premium Asus VG248QE 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Asus VG248QE Corsair K90 Kingwin Lazer Gold 850w Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Logitech G700s Corsair Asus Xonar M-Audio BX5 d2 
Audio
krk 10s 
  hide details  
Reply
My rig
(18 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770k M power EVGA GTX 980 SC G.SKILL Sniper (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 9-9-9-24 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
512GB Samsung 940 Pro h100 Windows 8 Home premium Asus VG248QE 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Asus VG248QE Corsair K90 Kingwin Lazer Gold 850w Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Logitech G700s Corsair Asus Xonar M-Audio BX5 d2 
Audio
krk 10s 
  hide details  
Reply
post #9 of 26
Thread Starter 
hmmm thats intresting would getting the 580 and the 2500k run better than the 2600k with 570?

and also my friend tried the gtx 580 and had an issue with it but with the cooling i dont see a problem
hurricane
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5-2500K 4.40 GHz Asus Sabertooth P67 w/ TUF Thermal Armor NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 1.5GB (SC) 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Corsair Vengeance 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSKeyboard
500GB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s Asus BC-12B1ST 12X Blu-Ray Combo DVDRW Drive cyborg 
PowerCaseMouse
850 Watts - Corsair CMPSU-850TXV2 Azza Hurrican 2000 Full Tower wow mouse 
  hide details  
Reply
hurricane
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5-2500K 4.40 GHz Asus Sabertooth P67 w/ TUF Thermal Armor NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 1.5GB (SC) 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Corsair Vengeance 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSKeyboard
500GB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s Asus BC-12B1ST 12X Blu-Ray Combo DVDRW Drive cyborg 
PowerCaseMouse
850 Watts - Corsair CMPSU-850TXV2 Azza Hurrican 2000 Full Tower wow mouse 
  hide details  
Reply
post #10 of 26
the 580 will give you better fps and a 580 with a different cooler is good, try the MSi twinfrozer. The reference coolers never are that great.
Herp
(1 item)
 
  
Other
Dolla Billz Yall! 
  hide details  
Reply
Herp
(1 item)
 
  
Other
Dolla Billz Yall! 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Intel - General
Overclock.net › Forums › Intel › Intel - General › Gaming build help