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post #41 of 62
Not going to respond to any posts, as that will incite flame.

My reasons:

Intel dislikeage: LGA blows. Try to fix a broken pin on your motherboard here. PGA is much better.
Their IHS makes no sense either. Why do they taper the edges? The whole point of the IHS is to increase surface area.
They don't scale as well in the cold as PhenomII
Their marketing team is boring and unoriginal
pricefixing/back room deals. (forcing ODM/OEM to not buy from Intel's competitors)
They think Atom is a good CPU
changing sockets out the wazoo as of late
I like integrated PCIe, but 16 lanes seems kinda shallow for enthusiasts.

AMD Dislike:
since it takes about 5 yrs from design to final silicon, i wanna meet the guy that five years ago decided that a 6 year old architechture would still be competitve.
high quality motherboards are less plentiful
Their southbridges could use work.
Chipset drivers are 200mb (why?)
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post #42 of 62
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Nothing like a troll to buzz in, ignore the topic, put people down, then leave having offered nothing particularly specific or special...
You must be referring to yourself, considering your post.

As for specifics, I'm pretty certain anyone can use Google to find every illegal business practice Intel has ever engaged in. Further, everything I have against their business practices is thoroughly documented by other posts.

Saying people are misinformed, and spreading misinformation is not insulting. Unlike your usage of the word "troll" which is incorrect, inflammatory, and meant as an insult. It does however show your lack of comprehension in an overt way.

What part of me saying that I don't like Intel's business practices isn't on topic?
Edited by Lucky 13 SpeedShop - 8/14/11 at 2:45pm
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post #43 of 62
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Meh, I won't buy Intel simply due to their shady business practices concerning monopolistic practices, and gouging the consumer. I don't support companies like that, which leaves only one other to turn to.
agreed 100%
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post #44 of 62
I dont hate or dislike Intel. I've used them in the past, but I prefer too use AMD for my systems.
I'm no fanboy, just prefer to use AMD. Been that way since K5 days.
    
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post #45 of 62
Both have their pros and cons.

AMD is cheap and does the trick. Little room for OCing compared to intel, but a lifesaveer when your on a budget.

Intel, for the enthusiast with a fat wallet, it doesn't get much better.

I stick with intel CPUs and AMD GPUs. I feel that Intel makes a better CPU and AMD makes a better GPU.
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post #46 of 62
Intel dislike:
- They change sockets like people change underwear
- Non-competitive prices for the good performance stuff
- Damaged sockets are hard to fix
- Shady business practices
- Crappy HSF's, even for the low-end stuff (only the $1k CPUs came with something good, but come on, the Nehalem i7 HSF's fail so hard)
- Atom ('nuff said)
- Integrated video ('nuff said)

AMD dislikes:
- Keeping a 6-years old architecture still alive
- Manufacturers stating their mobos can handle a x6 and offer OCing/unlocking options with a 4+1 power phase
- Getting rid of the ATI monicker (after all these years i still don't get used to calling AMD to the Radeon cards)
- Video drivers (grew up with ATI cards like the Rage 128 and Radeon 9200, and ever since AMD took over drivers have been failing so hard i switched to the green side)
Edited by Starbomba - 8/14/11 at 3:10pm
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post #47 of 62
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Originally Posted by Lucky 13 SpeedShop View Post
You must be referring to yourself, considering your post.
Well, I am not going to argue with peter perfect... let's start with your opening remark...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucky 13 SpeedShop
For an enthusiast site, it certainly is filled with a lot of misinformation, and ill informed people.
Great introduction. Without pointing out any details or offering to "enlighten us with your "ubur knowledge", you stomp on all of us by saying it's "FILLED" with ill informed forks; as if you know everything about everything!!!

Well, I am part of that fill and I take offense at that arrogant remark.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucky 13 SpeedShop
Seems many here are suffering from PBKAC
Great, you call "many" (as if you are ubur judge of all mankind) stupid in so many words.

And for those that don't know what PBKAC means, it's "Problem Between Keyboard and Chair".

Okay ubur perfect know it all judge of all imperfections, I don't expect you to apologize or admit any fault whatsoever because I run into your kind constantly and ya'll have never yet admitted any wrongs.

Well, I take exception with your rude overbearing stance by virture of your printed attitude which is not only unhelpful, it's down right nasty.

You could have posted your views without any comment as to the quality or intellectual knowledge of anybody else, but oh no!!! You have to stomp on folks.

Well, now I stomp back on a TROLL. End of rant and end of responses to YOU!



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post #48 of 62
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Well, I am not going to argue with peter perfect... let's start with your opening remark...



Great introduction. Without pointing out any details or offering to "enlighten us with your "ubur knowledge", you stomp on all of us by saying it's "FILLED" with ill informed forks; as if you know everything about everything!!!

Well, I am part of that fill and I take offense at that arrogant remark.



Great, you call "many" (as if you are ubur judge of all mankind) stupid in so many words.

And for those that don't know what PBKAC means, it's "Problem Between Keyboard and Chair".

Okay ubur perfect know it all judge of all imperfections, I don't expect you to apologize or admit any fault whatsoever because I run into your kind constantly and ya'll have never yet admitted any wrongs.

Well, I take exception with your rude overbearing stance by virture of your printed attitude which is not only unhelpful, it's down right nasty.

You could have posted your views without any comment as to the quality or intellectual knowledge of anybody else, but oh no!!! You have to stomp on folks.

Well, now I stomp back on a TROLL. End of rant and end of responses to YOU!



Tex1954
1. Calm down... just say....goosefraba....

2. Good your calm... Most AMD driver issues are actually PEBKAC with some problems being they never got rid of their Nvidia drivers before installing the AMD drivers or they just need a fresh install if they switched from say the 4k series to a 5k series.

3.Nvidia has just as many problems as AMD. I've used both brands extensively over the years and have had my share of problems with both sides.

@OP I hate Intel for making crap motherboards.
I also hate Intel for their horrible business practices.

I hate AMD because they don't have a tight grip on their motherboard manufacturers.

I also hate them for being so slow in R&D.
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Well, I am not going to argue with peter perfect... let's start with your opening remark...



Great introduction. Without pointing out any details or offering to "enlighten us with your "ubur knowledge", you stomp on all of us by saying it's "FILLED" with ill informed forks; as if you know everything about everything!!!

Well, I am part of that fill and I take offense at that arrogant remark.



Great, you call "many" (as if you are ubur judge of all mankind) stupid in so many words.

And for those that don't know what PBKAC means, it's "Problem Between Keyboard and Chair".

Okay ubur perfect know it all judge of all imperfections, I don't expect you to apologize or admit any fault whatsoever because I run into your kind constantly and ya'll have never yet admitted any wrongs.

Well, I take exception with your rude overbearing stance by virture of your printed attitude which is not only unhelpful, it's down right nasty.

You could have posted your views without any comment as to the quality or intellectual knowledge of anybody else, but oh no!!! You have to stomp on folks.

Well, now I stomp back on a TROLL. End of rant and end of responses to YOU!



Tex1954

Lol! You read waaaaay to much into everything. That is the only public response I'll give to you. Insecurity strikes home it seems.
Edited by Lucky 13 SpeedShop - 8/14/11 at 10:16pm
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3.Nvidia has just as many problems as AMD. I've used both brands extensively over the years and have had my share of problems with both sides.
Yeah... at least AMD's driver updates don't make your card explode right around the time of the new series' launch! Yet somehow AMD drivers are really that terrible.

AMD's newer drivers are actually really good.
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