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Originally Posted by sweffymo View Post
If I didn't have friends with gaming computers I wouldn't have done well at all.

I feel like the person who takes exactly 10 days is the winner because out means that they were already doing the best they could.

By the way, when the stats update I will be done. I don't know if kevdog will have finished too though.
I'm gonna win!
post #842 of 1268
Actually, they've not fully updated... I have 11k more points that will show up once the spreadsheet catches up with EOC.
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post #843 of 1268
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I know this event is still running (and I will see it through to the end) but I'd like to share my opinion.

So far it seems to favor non-24/7 and partial folders (those using fewer clients than they normally would). The idea is noble, get people to fold more/increase WU production, but its lopsided against 24/7 folders. Ideally a 24/7 folder or someone folding on all their clients will take ~10 days to reach their goal. While a part time folder will get there much faster, if they start folding 24/7 for the contest.

I'm not against the contest (its really about generating more productivity in the end, not the points), but it doesn't feel like a contest to me.

Just my opinion. Take it or leave it.
That is sorta the point as far as I know. This panders to the non-24/7 folders, as a way to make them fold for 240 hours straight, or as near to that as possible. People who fold 24/7 have the team competition, whereas those of us who do not have nothing. In the end, I think zodac's driving goal:
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We're over 10 million again, and it isn't winter yet!



Look out sweff, if Kev ed you, who is to say Prymus wont too?
     
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post #844 of 1268
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That is sorta the point as far as I know. This panders to the non-24/7 folders, as a way to make them fold for 240 hours straight, or as near to that as possible. People who fold 24/7 have the team competition, whereas those of us who do not have nothing. In the end, I think zodac's driving goal:


We're over 10 million again, and it isn't winter yet!
^^This, but I also think it helps to push the 24/7 folders even harder. Get friends/family's computers to help, upgrade equiptment, push OCs, run different clients, etc...

Personally, I changed to doing bigadv just before this started (only dropped 2 bigadv before Ten[Fold] started) as a way to try to win...just didn't realize that I would get a bigbigadv that would take 5 days to complete!

As a 24/7 folder, I've enjoyed it, it forced me to get creative, I pushed up to doing bigadv and bigbigadv, I got my mom to let me fold her system and I've had a great time talking about what we're all doing to try to post points.

In the end, it did exactly what zodac wanted it to: get those that don't fold 24/7 folding 24/7 for at least a few days and get those that do fold 24/7 to push a little hard to get more points and contribute more to the research. And honestly, just because you can't win, does it really make it any less exciting?
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Congrats to skinnysumo and Kevdog for the early completion and for taking 2nd and 3rd in non-bigadv class!!!

Now, I'm just trying to figure out where I'll be when this 6903 drops in 10 1/2 hours...221,000 points should bump me up from 27 place, right???
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post #846 of 1268
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^^This, but I also think it helps to push the 24/7 folders even harder. Get friends/family's computers to help, upgrade equiptment, push OCs, run different clients, etc...

Personally, I changed to doing bigadv just before this started (only dropped 2 bigadv before Ten[Fold] started) as a way to try to win...just didn't realize that I would get a bigbigadv that would take 5 days to complete!

As a 24/7 folder, I've enjoyed it, it forced me to get creative, I pushed up to doing bigadv and bigbigadv, I got my mom to let me fold her system and I've had a great time talking about what we're all doing to try to post points.

In the end, it did exactly what zodac wanted it to: get those that don't fold 24/7 folding 24/7 for at least a few days and get those that do fold 24/7 to push a little hard to get more points and contribute more to the research. And honestly, just because you can't win, does it really make it any less exciting?
the problem I have is that it didn't (hasn't) really pushed the non-24/7 folders at all - all they needed to do was just fold 24/7 for a couple of days and maybe start a couple more clients they don't usually bother with (I'm looking at you Blitz) and they win.

My personal feeling is that each person's target should be based on some peak measure of their PPD, not their 'normal' PPD. So we should do the next one using a target of (highest monthly points total)/3 or (highest weekly production) x 1.5 or something to give people a real incentive to beat their previous max outputs. That way we can get people who only fold 24/7 for Foldathons to compete with those who fold 24/7 normally too, as we base the finish line off their 24/7 capabilities and push to improve on them.

I think the idea of the competition is sound though - I think a handicapped race is the only way you can get different people competing with no real obvious winner before the event. I just think the handicap needs some work.
post #847 of 1268
Kevdog 'd me...


Once the silly thing updates I will have 10,500 more points.
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post #848 of 1268
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Congrats to skinnysumo and Kevdog for the early completion and for taking 2nd and 3rd in non-bigadv class!!!

Now, I'm just trying to figure out where I'll be when this 6903 drops in 10 1/2 hours...221,000 points should bump me up from 27 place, right???
Maybe about 5th or 6th.

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the problem I have is that it didn't (hasn't) really pushed the non-24/7 folders at all - all they needed to do was just fold 24/7 for a couple of days and maybe start a couple more clients they don't usually bother with (I'm looking at you Blitz) and they win.
Why? Because I didn't boot my PS3 and two laptops? Because I usually do not use the leafblowers? You find me a way to run GPUv3 on my ATis while still being able to run GPUv2 on my nVidia, I will do it. Until then, it cannot be done.
     
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Awesome battle for that spot I honestly thought you had it!!

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You find me a way to run GPUv3 on my ATis while still being able to run GPUv2 on my nVidia, I will do it. Until then, it cannot be done.
Can you not run V7 and Tracker v2 at the same time? and just be sure the machine ID's are not the same?
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Why? Because I didn't boot my PS3 and two laptops? Because I usually do not use the leafblowers? You find me a way to run GPUv3 on my ATis while still being able to run GPUv2 on my nVidia, I will do it. Until then, it cannot be done.
But that's the point - you haven't been breaking in to people's home to set up clients or throwing rigs together and pulling bits from dumpsters in order to get more PPD so as to be competitive though. And they are the lengths that 24/7 folders have to go to in order to be competitive in these events - which kinda goes against the overall idea of increasing our team output. The message shouldn't be 'Don't fold 24/7 and you'll do well in the next TenFold' should it?

The fact that I (and maybe others too, I don't know) knew that I could never win this event meant that I wasn't in the least bit motivated to up my PPD for it either. If I break out all the random bits in the house I could probably up my folding 25% or so, but at the cost of roughly 3 times the power and space that my current setups consume. Not really much push to do that when I knew I'd finish 4 days after the leaders here even if I did it - incur costs and live uncomfortably just to finish last anyway.

I should probably state that I'm not actually having a personal dig at you (Blitz) or any other folders - sorry if it appeared that way. But I feel the event would have been more fun for everyone if you (again to you Blitz) had actually had to resort to firing up the PS3 in order to beat whatever your previous peak output was in prior Foldathons or similar. The idea of these events is that we should all be trying to maximise our output, not just up it a little.

I do know about your config issues too - if I ever see a solution I'll let you know, but as I don't have any AMD hardware I can't really help other than to say 'it should work'. But that ain't gonna help you is it?
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