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Well, so far I've been testing it out using a media converter with multiple videos at one time, so far, the highest it has gone is 52C. When idle, it is hanging around 26C.
What speed are you at now? And what voltage?

I would try disabling your LLC and see what kind of temps you get. You will probably have to bump up the voltage in the BIOS to get it not to BSOD under load, but you should have better temps when you find the sweet spot.

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52 is within the tolerances of the chip so it wont do it any harm and the idle temsp are perfect, I would still monitor the temps for the next few days of "regular" use. If you get any BSOD's or hangs, you might have to back it off but to be honest, if your chip is anything like mine...you'll be fine.
Just use your rig like you would normally and keep an eye on your temps, If you have anymore issues I can give you the exact details of my overclock so you can compare.
Good work bud, 4Ghz on the 1090T can be a pain but looks like you nailed it
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Ihasfip - I haven't changed anything, the setting are still the same. I think I'm going to try and leave things the way they are for now, but I did order some AS5, since I'm only 2C over the max, I feel that I'm close to being safe. I will obviously apply the AS5 when it arrives, and will back down the overclock if the AS5 doesn't drop the max temps in Prime 95 to 62C or less. I feel like that is a safe plan to go on. If not, then can you provide a rough estimate on how much I will have to increase my CPU voltage once the LLC is disabled?
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Ihasfip - I haven't changed anything, the setting are still the same. I think I'm going to try and leave things the way they are for now, but I did order some AS5, since I'm only 2C over the max, I feel that I'm close to being safe. I will obviously apply the AS5 when it arrives, and will back down the overclock if the AS5 doesn't drop the max temps in Prime 95 to 62C or less. I feel like that is a safe plan to go on. If not, then can you provide a rough estimate on how much I will have to increase my CPU voltage once the LLC is disabled?
I believe it all varies based up the board. Mine was set a 1.56 but in windows it was 1.51, but as soon as it was under load it would drop to about 1.46. So you have to find something under 1.55 constant, but above whatever voltage keeps it from crashing under load.

And like I said. I wouldn't be worried with your temps at all. That 64c CPU temp doesn't matter. Trust me. Look around on the internet. You will find the same opinion. AMD states that 62c is the max temp, but they don't state whether that is core or cpu. It would have to be core as every Mobo is different and some report temps +/- of what they actually are. Just like speedometers in car, there is a like a 3mph +/- error. That's why technically if you ever got a ticket for 3mph or less over the speed limit you could get it dismissed based strictly on they fact. I don't know if they still do it but Car and Driver magazine used to report the discrepancy amount between the cars speedometer and the actual speed from a calibrated radar gun. Sorry for rambling. That is just my opinion. Take it as you will.

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Thank you, I really appreciate the help.
No problem. Glad to help.

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i`ve been trying to get my 1090 past the 3.8 mark, but it gets to hot. Im using the same cooler as the OP. Im now running at 3.8 at 1.425v, if i try to up the mHz, i get bsod and have to apply more voltage, but that in turn makes my cpu hotter and after about 5-10 mins in prime my coretemp show 63c\\64c.
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That's the nature of the beast, you need to up the voltage to get the speed your after, try better TIM, better case fans, improve airflow to the case.....these are all things you need to try.
Also, as I've said previously on here, prime95 stresses your chip way beyond anything your likely to be doing (unless its hardcore rendering or 24/7 folding) so just because it gets toasty during prime doesn't necessarily mean it will massively overheat during regular everyday use.
Of course there is the age old solution....buy a better cooler. I'm not knocking your rig or choice of cooler, fact is the 1090T does run hot when you try and overclock and there are better coolers out there that will keep it much cooler.
If its stable and cool enough at 3.8Ghz....leave it, there's no real world difference between 3.8Ghz and 4Ghz.
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That's the nature of the beast, you need to up the voltage to get the speed your after, try better TIM, better case fans, improve airflow to the case.....these are all things you need to try.
Also, as I've said previously on here, prime95 stresses your chip way beyond anything your likely to be doing (unless its hardcore rendering or 24/7 folding) so just because it gets toasty during prime doesn't necessarily mean it will massively overheat during regular everyday use.
Of course there is the age old solution....buy a better cooler. I'm not knocking your rig or choice of cooler, fact is the 1090T does run hot when you try and overclock and there are better coolers out there that will keep it much cooler.
If its stable and cool enough at 3.8Ghz....leave it, there's no real world difference between 3.8Ghz and 4Ghz.
^ This.

Its just nice being able to say I am at 4+ ghz. You can buy decent coolers for little. I did alot of research before I bought this cooler. And I am still thinking about going all out liquid cooling. Granted this keeps my pc super cool, the fans ramp up alot after a long time of playing to keep it cool. I have a huge cause with like 10 120mm fans. Superb airflow. So if temps are an issue, try new TIM, or reapply. See if that helps. If not, get a bigger cooler.

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I believe it all varies based up the board. Mine was set a 1.56 but in windows it was 1.51, but as soon as it was under load it would drop to about 1.46. So you have to find something under 1.55 constant, but above whatever voltage keeps it from crashing under load.

And like I said. I wouldn't be worried with your temps at all. That 64c CPU temp doesn't matter. Trust me. Look around on the internet. You will find the same opinion. AMD states that 62c is the max temp, but they don't state whether that is core or cpu. It would have to be core as every Mobo is different and some report temps +/- of what they actually are. Just like speedometers in car, there is a like a 3mph +/- error. That's why technically if you ever got a ticket for 3mph or less over the speed limit you could get it dismissed based strictly on they fact. I don't know if they still do it but Car and Driver magazine used to report the discrepancy amount between the cars speedometer and the actual speed from a calibrated radar gun. Sorry for rambling. That is just my opinion. Take it as you will.

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62C is Max "Core Temp", and your correct that "CPU Temp" off the motherboard socket sensor is incorrect during overclocking - that's the 10 degree variance to actual temp right there. The actual thermal shutdown built into the chip is 90C - and the silicon can go 97C or better. Despite this they still recommend not exceeding 60C for extended periods of time or 62C max.

See AMD below:

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Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, I just recently had your email forwarded to my department.

Concerning your question regarding the temperatures with your processor. (1090) the maximum temperature threshold is 62 Celsius which set for the internal die (core) temperature of the chip. The core temperatures have an equational offset to determine temperature which equalizes at about 45 Celsius thus giving you more accurate readings at peak temperatures. The hindrance in this is the sub ambient idle temperature readings you speak of.

The silicon and adhesives used in manufacturing these processors has a peak temperature rating of 97+ Celsius before any form of degradation will take place. The processor also has a thermal shut off safe guard in place that shuts the processor down at 90 Celsius.

The Cpu temperature is read form a sensor embedded within the socket of your motherboard causing about a 7-10 Celsius variance form the actual Cpu temperature, which may be what you are reading about on the net.

You can use an application called AMD overdrive, that will allow you to monitor your temperatures accurately.

As long as your core temperature has not exceeded the high side of the 60 degree mark for extended periods of time you should be ok. 62 degrees holds a generous safety net to begin with.

I hope I was able to answer your questions, If you have any more inquiries don't hesitate to contact us.


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