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I'm not trolling I'm trying to help you!

Brother... if you don't realize a static bag is conductive... then you need to buy that book! Because as a PC builder you appear INCOMPETENT!
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Originally Posted by Dopamin3 View Post
First off, don't run your motherboard with an antistatic bag (or any other type of bag) under it. If it gets a little hot, it can melt to the bag which is a terrible thing to happen.

The underside of a motherboard doesn't get hot enough to melt a bag ROTFL

The point to make is the bag is CONDUCTIVE and will SHORT OUT the bottom of the board...

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Originally Posted by HiroPro View Post
The underside of a motherboard doesn't get hot enough to melt a bag ROTFL

The point to make is the bag is CONDUCTIVE and will SHORT OUT the bottom of the board...

OMG ppl
Good point, but I've seen a bag melt to the bottom of a motherboard... It doesn't melt the bag fully, just gets all nasty and sticks to the bottom of the board. Either way it's a bad practice.
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Seriously, take it off the ******* antistatic bag. Antistatic bags work by "shielding" the INSIDE from electric fields OUTSIDE by being CONDUCTIVE so that in effect electric fields go AROUND the bag instead of THROUGH the bag. Also means no static discharges go THROUGH the bag since the electrons will go AROUND the bag.
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post #15 of 41
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Um, you spoke as if I was a complete idiot that's why I took offence. But did any one you notice in the Post where I put the picture I said THE BAG IS THERE NO MORE. GAWSShh

I thought you needed it but I was wrong. Okay? Always see people test em in videos and what not on the bag. So okay. This has been fixed.

Be nice if we could get back to the subject. Can the SB malfuctioning and running crazy hot randomly cause my computer to think my HDDs are bad and also act bad? Like sometimes I boot up it will get crazy hot, watch it in bios just keesp going up and up like 1c per sec, got to 80c again and I just shut it off. Turned off powered and repowered in a few. It's been on fine staying steady at 30-35c which is normal I bleieve. NB is steady at 40c.
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You probably blew something running it on the bag. No way to isolate that issue now, unfortunately - chalk it up to experience and you may as well RMA the board.
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post #17 of 41
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Originally Posted by Quantum Reality View Post
You probably blew something running it on the bag. No way to isolate that issue now, unfortunately - chalk it up to experience and you may as well RMA the board.
Um no. Nothing happened because of the bag. These issues happened before. I never seen the temp get so high because i never checked. Was probably crazy hot too.

Pleeeaaassee answer the question if you have an answer D: Not to RMA the board I believe I've all ready tried that, the board is screwed up to begin with. The bag did nothing you guys are making a mountain out of a street building D: Short doesn't always cause it to explode you know. It has been running on the bag for 2 days and there weren't any extra issues.
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What question? I have only seen you use the ? mark once in your comments and it was regarding removing the bag. Well we told you to remove it your DOLT. You've damaged the board doing that. End of story! The reason the north/southbridge was running so hot was because you were SHORTING IT OUT. As to what way electrically this was affecting it to create the heat is anyone's guess.

There is perhaps a thousand potentially shortable legs and SMDs on the bottom of a motherboard. Most of the potential legs you could have shorted out come from connectors on the top of the board. Like the ATX connector, the memory slots, PCIe and PCI slots. Understand that any female connector or socket/slot of any type is mounted to the board through holes then solderedd at the backside/bottom of the board. Those legs poking down would be shorted by the bag.

You probably picked up current from the ATX socket's legs and jumped it into the memory, PCI/e or USB socket legs into chassis ground. Anyway you look at it you've damaged the board.

Understand that electronics can partially work or be damaged but still run and operate. Just not run or operate well/properly like so many experience here LOL

I suggest OP you purchase this book.


PS He claims that people do this all the time from what he's seen... IS THIS TRUE!!! WOW IF lusers do that here that would account for a lot of the hardware issues!!!
Edited by HiroPro - 8/17/11 at 2:03pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dopamin3 View Post
Next, just replace the thermal paste yourself. It won't take very long to do, and you will save the hassle of RMA. You should see a fairly good temp drop just from properly applying new thermal paste (after cleaning the old off of course). If it still isn't good, just place a small fan like a Mini Kaze over the area.
This is what you need to be doing, not arguing with other members. It should help but if not, you can run it till it dies and then upgrade. I am willing to be you will need more than just alcohol to remove the TIM like this http://www.arcticsilver.com/arcticlean.htm.
Edited by UsedPaperclip - 8/17/11 at 2:01pm
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Okay, love your named "usedpaperclip" haha.

Hiropro, shorting or not it worked. I have it on the box now, fan on it, ocassionaly when I boot it SB temps just soars. Was in BIOS watching it go from 40c to 70c in seconds. Also I noticed a week ago or so, a cap, behind the PS/2 plugin has some black on the top of it. And sometimes I hear an extremly high pitched squeal, hurts my ears! But I figure it's a cap or something.

THIS IS MY CURRENT QUESTION: Can a malfunctioning SB cause the computer to think the HDDs are bad? (I know the motherboard is bad, that has been pointed out many many times. I could tell that myself XP)
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