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AMD's graphics drivers get a lot of undeserved flak. Yes, years ago they weren't great... but that was years ago. Having said that, years ago, the nVidia drivers weren't great either in many situations.

I've had problems with both AMD and nVidia drivers, so all in all they're probably about equal.

One thing I will say is that AMD seem to support their drivers with new features better - since launch, they've added a lot of features to EyeFinity, for example. I cannot say the same about nVidia and Surround.
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Lmaoo...shaders can't compute tessellation hight maps...



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They aren't made to. They have tesselation units that do it much better. The 5870 has more shaders than the 6970, why it runs it better.
    
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Plus for this.

It really is all up to the user when it's a software issue. If it works for 90percent of the population, you are doing it wrong.
Surely you must be joking. If 90 % uses the card in Solitaire, then other people who use it differently are doing it wrong? It is prettyl obvious that many in this thread have not been in the situation where they shelled out 1200 euros for two 5870XXX cards and ended up robbed by AMD. I remember there was a forum member here with 2 5970 cards and he had huge driver problems. Some of the problems we shared.


Many people here on OCN say 'you are doing it wrong' and a few weeks later you see them opening threads and asking for help regarding AMD drivers. This is after they insult other people for pointing out how bad the drivers are.

I have 4 AMD cards, 2 different generations and they have been plagued but numerous problems. From screen flickering, mouse issues, driver recovery, the need to disable CFX in games, etc.


I used to love ATI products and enjoyed many in my time as a computer enthusiast. These 4 cards will be my last AMD product because I am fed up with the beta tester status on my own money.
 
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Surely you must be joking. If 90 % uses the card in Solitaire, then other people who use it differently are doing it wrong? It is prettyl obvious that many in this thread have not been in the situation where they shelled out 1200 euros for two 5870XXX cards and ended up robbed by AMD. I remember there was a forum member here with 2 5970 cards and he had huge driver problems. Some of the problems we shared.


Many people here on OCN say 'you are doing it wrong' and a few weeks later you see them opening threads and asking for help regarding AMD drivers. This is after they insult other people for pointing out how bad the drivers are.

I have 4 AMD cards, 2 different generations and they have been plagued but numerous problems. From screen flickering, mouse issues, driver recovery, the need to disable CFX in games, etc.


I used to love ATI products and enjoyed many in my time as a computer enthusiast. These 4 cards will be my last AMD product because I am fed up with the beta tester status on my own money.
6970s never gave me an issue, nor anyone really.
    
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I never had issues with the last ATI-AMD cards I had in the past; HD5850, HD5850 Toxic, HD5970, HD6970, and now x2 HD6970.

Ever since ATI bought AMD, their drivers have improved every month to get better and better.

I've yet to have any problems caused by AMD drivers on my 6970's so far.
    
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It's funny; the only generation of AMD/ATi cards I didn't use extensively all the way back to the Rage Pro days was the 5000 series... I stuck with a 4870X2 and then moved to GTX460SLI for Surround.
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Had both and have had issues with both. Personally I like the Nvidia Control Panel interface better but that doesn't have anything to do with performance.

Edit: And when I say issues they were probably user errors but I'm not sure.
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I never had issues with the last ATI-AMD cards I had in the past; HD5850, HD5850 Toxic, HD5970, HD6970, and now x2 HD6970.

Ever since ATI bought AMD, their drivers have improved every month to get better and better.

I've yet to have any problems caused by AMD drivers on my 6970's so far.
AMD bought ATI*
    
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AMD really improved the drivers for ATI cards.

Curently this is my 2nd ATI card, my 1st was during KOTOR 1 game, and back then I had to change drivers every time I wanted to play a different game ( all drivers except one were stuttering heavily in KOTOR, but that driver had big performance problems in other games, so I always had to re-install drivers based on what games I played).

Now I have never had ANY issues with it, the only occasional issues I hear about now is optimization in crossfire, BUT Nvidia also has same issues with new released games so I consider that normal even tho it shouldn't be.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Goliath.ro View Post
AMD really improved the drivers for ATI cards.

Curently this is my 2nd ATI card, my 1st was during KOTOR 1 game, and back then I had to change drivers every time I wanted to play a different game ( all drivers except one were stuttering heavily in KOTOR, but that driver had big performance problems in other games, so I always had to re-install drivers based on what games I played).

Now I have never had ANY issues with it, the only occasional issues I hear about now is optimization in crossfire, BUT Nvidia also has same issues with new released games so I consider that normal even tho it shouldn't be.
Here is why it sometime buggy and suffer FPS:

Disadvantages
If an OpenGL game does not have a CrossFire profile, the Catalyst AI system will set the rendering mode to Scissor by default, with no way to change it to a more suitable or faster mode, such as AFR (More information can be found at the following link. However, SLI allows the rendering mode to be set for each application manually, even for games which do not have an existing profile.

Setting Catalyst AI to 'Advanced' allows manual mode setting for Direct 3D games, but not OpenGL games, to AFR.

Caveats
The first generation CrossFire implementations (the Radeon X800 to X1900 series) require an external y-cable/dongle to operate in CrossFire mode due to the PCI-e bus not being able to provide enough bandwidth to run CrossFire without losing a significant amount of performance.
In some cases CrossFire doesn't improve 3D performance – in some extreme cases, it can lower the framerate due to the particulars of an application's coding. This is also true for Nvidia's SLI, as the problem is inherent in multi-GPU systems. This is often witnessed when running an application at low resolutions.

When using CrossFire with AFR, the subjective framerate can often be lower than the framerate reported by benchmarking applications, and may even be poorer than the frame rate of its single-GPU equivalent. This phenomenon is known as micro stuttering and also applies to SLI since it's inherent to multi-GPU configurations.

Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_CrossFire
 
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