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looks like this http://www.compucheap.com/images/used/cp09.jpg (not actually my cpu)
Honestly that looks fine. And by your last post there's nothing on the bottom. Take some 91% rubbing alcohol and gently remove the paste that's in between all those chips and you'll be fine. The chip shouldn't be ruined and nothing will get shorted out if you remove most of it so there aren't connections between the chips. My guess is he used some cheap paste as well that may not even be conductive. That doesn't look like arctic silver or any thing to me, just the run of the mill paste that comes in a packet.
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Honestly that looks fine. And by your last post there's nothing on the bottom. Take some 91% rubbing alcohol and gently remove the paste that's in between all those chips and you'll be fine. The chip shouldn't be ruined and nothing will get shorted out if you remove most of it so there aren't connections between the chips. My guess is he used some cheap paste as well that may not even be conductive. That doesn't look like arctic silver or any thing to me, just the run of the mill paste that comes in a packet.
im pretty sure he used the crap that came with the hyper 212+

and from what i understand, it's not conductive. even though CM won't release info about it...
    
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I thought building a computer was supposed to be fun. When does the fun begin....
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I thought building a computer was supposed to be fun. When does the fun begin....
when you build it yourself.
    
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just clean the paste and you should be fine. make sure none of it gets in the socket or on the motherboard.

try to clean it to the best of your abilities. also read the manual that came with the hyper 212+ and use that you install the heatsink. make sure you use the correct socket holes on motherboard.

when using thermal paste, don't use too much cuz it'll do the opposite effect of what the thermal paste is suppose to do.

also apply the thermal paste in this manner.



i think that's all. btw next time, trust OCN. we definitely stack up more than 20 years of experience....
...or 30 years for that matter.

20 Below: just because someone is an IT guy who works for the state and just because he has 30 years of experience, it does NOT mean he knows what he's doing when it comes to THIS stuff. I think that you have seen enough today to make this abundantly clear: extremely experienced IT guy who works for the state does not equal "computer building and overclocking expert".

I'm not an IT guy, but yet I bet I could run perfect circles around that jerk. However, when it comes to "IT" stuff (that is, HIS JOB), he could run perfect circles around me.

So yes, there's quite a difference.


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@ TwoCables bet you're slightly frustrated. ~lol just got frustrated by this thread alone. 20 years amounts to a mess up on the heatsink like that... must have been out of the game for 10 years.
I've never known an IT guy who knows the things that we know. Most of them couldn't care less about these things.

Anyway, I'm more than frustrated: I'm angry and offended, and extremely disappointed. Unfortunately (and as far as I know), I think I was the only one who told him to avoid that IT guy, and I knew that he has 30 years of experience. Like I said, I've never known an IT guy who cares about the things we care about. Some do, but I took a gamble and ended up being right.


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Honestly that looks fine. And by your last post there's nothing on the bottom. Take some 91% rubbing alcohol and gently remove the paste that's in between all those chips and you'll be fine. The chip shouldn't be ruined and nothing will get shorted out if you remove most of it so there aren't connections between the chips. My guess is he used some cheap paste as well that may not even be conductive. That doesn't look like arctic silver or any thing to me, just the run of the mill paste that comes in a packet.
That's not his. It's just a random pic he found that looks similar to what he is dealing with.
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I thought building a computer was supposed to be fun. When does the fun begin....
Stupidcha is correct: the fun only happens when you do everything yourself. This is only one of the reasons why I told you to avoid that IT guy and just do it yourself while leaning entirely on us. Obviously, there were other more-important reasons why I told you to avoid him, but that was certainly one of them.
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...or 30 years for that matter.

20 Below: just because someone is an IT guy who works for the state and just because he has 30 years of experience, it does NOT mean he knows what he's doing when it comes to THIS stuff. I think that you have seen enough today to make this abundantly clear: extremely experienced IT guy who works for the state does not equal "computer building and overclocking expert".

I'm not an IT guy, but yet I bet I could run perfect circles around that jerk. However, when it comes to "IT" stuff (that is, HIS JOB), he could run perfect circles around me.

So yes, there's quite a difference.



I've never known an IT guy who knows the things that we know. Most of them couldn't care less about these things.

Anyway, I'm more than frustrated: I'm angry and offended, and extremely disappointed. Unfortunately (and as far as I know), I think I was the only one who told him to avoid that IT guy, and I knew that he has 30 years of experience. Like I said, I've never known an IT guy who cares about the things we care about. Some do, but I took a gamble and ended up being right.



That's not his. It's just a random pic he found that looks similar to what he is dealing with.

true this. i have never met an IT guy that knew more about computers than me. not trying to brag but most of the IT people don't really know much about the computer field in general. they're better for more specialized things.

and i do empathize for you. a guy i know, recently started to ask my for my advice. every piece of advice, i gave him, he's rejected. now he regrets buying crappy products that i told him to no buy. jeez... i waste at least a quarter of my time looking at these thing and he trusts the guy and best buy more than me? told him not to go to best buy in the first place. now he asks me stupid questions like which mouse is better or is a OEM or new drive better. seriously, stop asking for my advice if you're not going to take it...

OP, take our first piece of advice and just have the guy replace the motherboard and cpu. if he needs to pay a restocking fee, then have him do that. i wouldn't be less than super PO with the job he did. he potentially endangered $400 worth in parts.

btw +rep for you TwoCables. you truly deserve it. the dedication you put into OCN.
    
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post #58 of 86
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true this. i have never met an IT guy that knew more about computers than me. not trying to brag but most of the IT people don't really know much about the computer field in general. they're better for more specialized things.

and i do empathize for you. a guy i know, recently started to ask my for my advice. every piece of advice, i gave him, he's rejected. now he regrets buying crappy products that i told him to no buy. jeez... i waste at least a quarter of my time looking at these thing and he trusts the guy and best buy more than me? told him not to go to best buy in the first place. now he asks me stupid questions like which mouse is better or is a OEM or new drive better. seriously, stop asking for my advice if you're not going to take it...
Oh wow. There are no words....


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OP, take our first piece of advice and just have the guy replace the motherboard and cpu. if he needs to pay a restocking fee, then have him do that. i wouldn't be less than super PO with the job he did. he potentially endangered $400 worth in parts.
I dunno about that, though. I mean 20 Below found that there's no paste in the socket. It sounds to me like this IT guy just used too much paste and it squeezed out and stopped before it ended up going beyond the lower part of the IHS (the lower part that surrounds the raised part).


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btw +rep for you TwoCables. you truly deserve it. the dedication you put into OCN.
Thank you. That's a nice thing to say, man!
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I fixed it. I guess I am better than him. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...815110249.jpg/
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I fixed it. I guess I am better than him. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...815110249.jpg/
You proved that you are better than he is in this respect by joining OCN.

From now on, don't let anyone touch your stuff! Nobody in this world will ever care about it as much as you do. It's just not possible!
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