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And your CPU will definitely hold a newer card back a little bit. Just overclock it further! Those e2180's are known to go 3GHz+ with ease.
m was running it at 3.33Ghz and but placed the above bios malfunction

another small question will a gddr5 1 gb graphic card and a 512 mb graphic card make a huge diffrence i m going to play games a max to max 1280x1024 screen resolution
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If it supports native 1333 FSB, then yes it should. The e2180 has a 10x multiplier. So at 333 (1333 QDR) FSB, it would be at 3.33GHz.
I had the E2180 in the EVGA 680i SLI (top of the line nForce 680i board), and I could barely get it to 2.9GHz. So, I am very much doubting that a Micro ATX board with the G41 chipset that also has onboard video will be able to get the E2180 to even 2.8GHz.


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As far as the voltage problem, sounds like you're using "offset" voltage. So just up it slowly. Don't let your temps pass about 65*C under a stress test, and being a 65nm chip, your voltage is good up to 1.65v, assuming you can keep it cool.
Why is the limit 65°C?
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but i cant tweak around with the volts at all i cant reduce it i cant increase it its at auto here have a look here
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m was running it at 3.33Ghz and but placed the above bios malfunction

another small question will a gddr5 1 gb graphic card and a 512 mb graphic card make a huge diffrence i m going to play games a max to max 1280x1024 screen resolution
Pick your graphics card based off the card itself, not how much memory it has. The only time graphics memory really matters is when comparing the same cards (like a GTS 250 512MB vs. 1GB, or a GTX460 768MB vs. 1GB).

Just pick a good card, that fits your budget, and don't worry about the memory that it has.

Depending on your budget, I'd say a good GTX460 1GB (non SE) would be a great addition to your machine (or a HD6850, but they tend to be more expensive).
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I had the E2180 in the EVGA 680i SLI (top of the line nForce 680i board), and I could barely get it to 2.9GHz. So, I am very much doubting that a Micro ATX board with the G41 chipset that also has onboard video will be able to get the E2180 to even 2.8GHz.



Why is the limit 65°C?
Some chips can do it, some can't. It happens.

As far as the temperature goes, isn't the maximum safe according to Intel 72*C? If so, then around 65*C with overclocking would be the maximum safe. As you speed up silicone (overclocking), it'll tend to get unstable easier with higher temperatures. That's why with AMD, I always recommend 55*C or less, even though max safe is 62-64*C (chip dependent).

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i am going for a 5670 or 5570 so will it make a difference between a 1gb and 512 mb
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Some chips can do it, some can't. It happens.

As far as the temperature goes, isn't the maximum safe according to Intel 72*C? If so, then around 65*C with overclocking would be the maximum safe. As you speed up silicone (overclocking), it'll tend to get unstable easier with higher temperatures. That's why with AMD, I always recommend 55*C or less, even though max safe is 62-64*C (chip dependent).
That's the TCase (which is actually 73.3°C). The Tj. Max for the E2180 is about 90°C.

So it's best to try and stay out of the high 70s and low 80s, or else instability would be the result due to the heat (which is irritating).
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OK i'll try being as brief as possible. Depending on your budget, an upgrade to a 6770 would be most worthy as prices are at an all time low. The 5670 is around 4.8k now as opposed to 6.3k for a sapphire/msi 6770. it realy wouldn't make sense to go in for the older 5000 series. Also, the E2180 is a 2nd generation dual-core processor which succeeded the pentium D. Its very entry level and would bottleneck your card by a substantial margin. My older core 2 duo e4500 oc'd to 3.2 GHz was a bottleneck as well. Your frames may hold up but apparant lag would be there. Don't go by the misconception that brand names don't mean good psu's. I learnt that the hard way. my older non-branded "good quality" psu blew up n fried my parts into oblivion. As far as oc'ing goes, keep the voltage below 1.4v and back it up with good thermal compound, and by that i don't mean go in for cheap 20- something *****.
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i am going for a 5670 or 5570 so will it make a difference between a 1gb and 512 mb
Not really no. Neither card is very strong, so it really won't matter too much. Definitely go for the 5670, its a good bit faster. To be honest though, I'd recommend trying to find a HD5770 or a GTX460 or better though. Even though you've got a low resolution monitor, it still won't hurt to be a little overkill, especially with the pricing on those 2 cards.
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At that resolution? Probably not.
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