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Quote:
Originally Posted by Heavy MG;14598519 
He never said anything about Google creating a monopoly. Other tech companies making alliances to fight Apple and their monopoly is good,because competition is good for the industry and the consumer.

Apple doesn't have a monopoly so I'm confused. Yes they command about 60% of the tablet market but in every other market they are involved in they are by far in the minority of sales.

Also, cheering for Google to acquire all these mobile market allies to crush apple and cayennemist's mention of wanting a Google desktop distro is where I get the Google monopoly idea. If google gets the support of all of its android sub vendors to crush apple, would that not be promoting Googles monopolizing of the mobile market? Because lets be honest RIM's marketshare is pretty low compared to Android and iOS

edit: you say competition is good but hope for google to take over the market, how is this competition at all? Just because apple has a solid market share in one segment doesn't make them a monopoly.
Edited by rocklobsta1109 - 8/15/11 at 11:48pm
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post #102 of 121
by what do you mean monopoly?
even if google gets apple out of the mobile industry they will still be competing versus samsung, htc and stuff
google does not make money with android
they make money by the services of android( gmail , youtube, etc)
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post #103 of 121
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Originally Posted by Dream Killer;14597795 
This is interesting. Motorola held several patents on 2g, 3g and 4g technologies and is well equipped to manufacture phones. Even if Android stays open to any manufacturer who wishes to use it, no matter how you look at this Google will be competing in the mobile market against HTC and Samsung.

If HTC, Samsung and other mobile phone makers refuse to pay Google royalties for technologies patented by Motorola and now owned by Google, Google could very well sue other phone manufacturers in the future.

The big question here is; did Google do this to simply "defend" from Apple, or are they looking at Apple and trying to copy its process of designing a mobile phone from the ground up (total control of both software and hardware).

There's a war going out there in the wireless world and Google just bought weapons. Expect alliances in the mobile industry to shift.

What I think is this: Motorola's manufacturing capability will be used by Google to make some "reference" Android models for OEMs to try and meet or beat the spec. HTC and Samsung will have to follow the example set by Google in order to produce high-quality Android handsets which the general public has been clamoring for.

This model works in the GPU business, as we all know. AMD and Nvidia have their own reference boards (which they do sell), but most of the sales come from licensees such as ASUS and MSI. For Google to set the bar for other smartphone manufacturers will require a more dedicated hardware maker, and they got it with Motorola. Moto won't necessarily be the favored Nexus provider of choice, but chances are future devices will use Google's updated vanilla Android builds.

Also, Google might license all those Motorola patents to its OEMs for free, and there's no stopping it giving them all away since it already owns the patents. So, all Android partners will benefit from this purchase especially in the defense of Android against countless aggressors.
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If this merger goes through, I don't see it changing too much in the short term. However, if I'm HTC or Samsung I'd be a little upset about it. Seems like Motorola would gain an unfair advantage in the Android space, for obvious reasons. Conversely, if I'm Moto, I'd be upset that my patents are now being extended to my competitors because of Android. I really don't understand how that works exactly. Maybe just the software patents would apply?

But it does seem pretty obvious that patents are the reason Google wants Motorola. Unless of course Google is prepping a new sort of business model similar to how Apple does it with the iPhone, and MS does with Nokia.

I'm also happy to see two big American companies join forces. That's just the patriotic part in me. I'll always root for the American company.
 
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post #105 of 121
Google
someone
stop them!!
Soon we'll be drinking , eating , thinking, doing and sleeping google ( don't tell me how this is inappropriate, you might just be google for all I know!
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Google is just getting closer and closer to an Anti-Trust infringement.....
    
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post #108 of 121
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dream Killer;14597795 
This is interesting. Motorola held several patents on 2g, 3g and 4g technologies and is well equipped to manufacture phones. Even if Android stays open to any manufacturer who wishes to use it, no matter how you look at this Google will be competing in the mobile market against HTC and Samsung.

If HTC, Samsung and other mobile phone makers refuse to pay Google royalties for technologies patented by Motorola and now owned by Google, Google could very well sue other phone manufacturers in the future.

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There's a war going out there in the wireless world and Google just bought weapons. Expect alliances in the mobile industry to shift.

I really doubt Google would do that to the manufacturers that have made Android what it is today. They'd really lose my respect then. Google isn't out for patent trolling like Apple is; 99+% of their revenue is from advertising. A few million in patent licensing is pocket change to them; they probably spent more than that producing and shipping the Cr-48 Pilot laptops for free.
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I just hope we don't end up with another duopoly in the US. I feel like that's all we really have in the major sectors now days (ie. AT&T and Verizon).
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post #110 of 121
Quote:
Originally Posted by jjsoviet;14599816 
What I think is this: Motorola's manufacturing capability will be used by Google to make some "reference" Android models for OEMs to try and meet or beat the spec. HTC and Samsung will have to follow the example set by Google in order to produce high-quality Android handsets which the general public has been clamoring for.

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Also, Google might license all those Motorola patents to its OEMs for free, and there's no stopping it giving them all away since it already owns the patents. So, all Android partners will benefit from this purchase especially in the defense of Android against countless aggressors.

It works in selling GPUs because nVidia and ATi still make money from selling the actual GPU chip to manufacturers. That same model won't work with Google/Motorola because Android is a piece of software that happens to be an open OS.

If I were an Android partner, I would be scared right now because the millions of dollars I spent in designing hardware for Android came out of my own pocket. Google buying Motorola Mobile is a clear threat to that investment.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealth Pyros;14601004 
I really doubt Google would do that to the manufacturers that have made Android what it is today. They'd really lose my respect then. Google isn't out for patent trolling like Apple is; 99+% of their revenue is from advertising. A few million in patent licensing is pocket change to them; they probably spent more than that producing and shipping the Cr-48 Pilot laptops for free.

Again, why would Google buy a mobile handset manufacturing giant and NOT compete with other makers in handsets? It doesn't make sense from any angle.

The fact is the main bulk of complaints from Android users is the variable performance between the phones it runs on. Apple on the other hand has granular control over hardware and software. With Motorola Mobile under Google, Google can now release an Android phone with guaranteed performance just like Apple.

This 12.5 Billion Dollar acquisition strongly reinforces that the mobile industry is an important target for Google. If they won't come out with a handset of their own, then then this deal wouldn't be a profitable one.
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