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Apple took a pretty big risk by bringing a Tablet computer to the market that nobody was really demanding, and that many cynics predicted would be a failure. If I'm Apple, once my tablet becomes successful after my rather large risk, I get to sit back and watch every Joe Schmoe electronics manufacturer release the same product as me. And thanks to my success in the tablet market, there's now a demand for their product as well.

Well you know what, I'd be pretty unhappy about that and if there was a way for me to keep that from happening, such as the patents I applied for, you can bet your bottom dollar that I'm going to do all I can to keep my competitors below me on the food chain. All the players have to abide by the same rules in the patent game, and if you're violating one of my patents then that's just too bad for you.
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From the front, the average uninformed purchaser of a tablet would quite easily confuse them. Just because you know they are different does not mean that people will not confuse them. Granted the back of them are much different, but I don't know of any store that displays the back of the tablets exclusively rather than the front.

It seems hard for people on this website to understand that they are in the minority of tech purchasers. Most people who buy computers are uninformed, confused, and generally misled people. Just because we are in a haven of tech info with a community of people who know much more than the average person about tech does not mean that everyone in the world knows as much as we do about tech.
So you think common people are really stupid to go to a store and buy a samsung tablet thinking it was an I-pad 2?



Even my grandma would now that they are not the same tablet.
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Apple took a pretty big risk by bringing a Tablet computer to the market that nobody was really demanding, and that many cynics predicted would be a failure. If I'm Apple, once my tablet becomes successful after my rather large risk, I get to sit back and watch every Joe Schmoe electronics manufacturer release the same product as me. And thanks to my success in the tablet market, there's now a demand for their product as well.

Well you know what, I'd be pretty unhappy about that and if there was a way for me to keep that from happening, such as the patents I applied for, you can bet your bottom dollar that I'm going to do all I can to keep my competitors below me on the food chain. All the players have to abide by the same rules in the patent game, and if you're violating one of my patents then that's just too bad for you.
This is pretty much what I was getting at earlier.
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So you think common people are really stupid to go to a store and buy a samsung tablet thinking it was an I-pad 2?



Even my grandma would now that they are not the same tablet.
Yes, I do. People do things like this all the time. I have a brother who works at an Apple retail store and he's had customers ask for XBox Live time cards.
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apple needs to seriously patent their future products such as iWheel and iCup and iGlasses while they can.
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Can you tell me what looks soo incredibly similar other than been rectangle with a touchscreen?

Because in reallity it all comes down just to that.

Can you now see why this is soo ridiculous?
This.

I have a 10" photo frame at home that has a black bezel and rounded corners. Why aren't Apple suing over it? Oh right, it has looked like that since 2006.

Take a look at early Apple PCs - what do they resemble? Beige box with a beige monitor? Thought so - should we be telling Apple to pay royalties for all those machines retrospectively? Same with laptops - hinged design with monitor over keyboard? That had been done before the Macbook.

If patents like this are allowed to be abused by companies, we will never see any advancement. Want to make a TV? Pay lots of royalties, because TVs all look the same. Same with cars, laptops, phones. Now it's fair enough that companies should be able to protect their IP - but not to the extent where you can patent general ideas or vague shapes.
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This.

I have a 10" photo frame at home that has a black bezel and rounded corners. Why aren't Apple suing over it? Oh right, it has looked like that since 2006.

Take a look at early Apple PCs - what do they resemble? Beige box with a beige monitor? Thought so - should we be telling Apple to pay royalties for all those machines retrospectively? Same with laptops - hinged design with monitor over keyboard? That had been done before the Macbook.

If patents like this are allowed to be abused by companies, we will never see any advancement. Want to make a TV? Pay lots of royalties, because TVs all look the same. Same with cars, laptops, phones. Now it's fair enough that companies should be able to protect their IP - but not to the extent where you can patent general ideas or vague shapes.
I think your photo frame is a few markets off of tablets. Why do you think BP can't sue everybody who publishes the word invigorate?
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I think your photo frame is a few markets off of tablets. Why do you think BP can't sue everybody who publishes the word invigorate?
But Apple are going after Samsung because their tablet looks like an iPad - but Apple's tablet looks like my photo frame. They both show images on a screen that the user can manipulate. Neither have lots of buttons. Really what's the difference?

The iPad also looks like that tablet released in about 1994 or so. Why can Apple sue based on a vague appearance?

BP won't be able to sue anyone who uses that word - only if it is used in the same context as BP in similar marketing campaigns. That's how the patent system is (supposed) to work - protecting actual IP, not vague concepts.
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But Apple are going after Samsung because their tablet looks like an iPad - but Apple's tablet looks like my photo frame. They both show images on a screen that the user can manipulate. Neither have lots of buttons. Really what's the difference?

The iPad also looks like that tablet released in about 1994 or so. Why can Apple sue based on a vague appearance?

BP won't be able to sue anyone who uses that word - only if it is used in the same context as BP in similar marketing campaigns. That's how the patent system is (supposed) to work - protecting actual IP, not vague concepts.
But your photo frame isn't a tablet, nor is it marketed as such. Just because it looks like one doesn't mean it's marketed as the same product. Nowhere have I seen photo frames marketed as tablet computers.

That tablet released in 1994, the company that made it, how much of the tablet market share do they hold?

See, you understand why BP cannot sue people who use invigorate outside of promoting gasoline sales. This is precisely why Apple is only suing people who infringing based on advertising in tablet sales, not photo frame sales.
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Yes, I do. People do things like this all the time. I have a brother who works at an Apple retail store and he's had customers ask for XBox Live time cards.
1st. People stupidity is not Samsung fault because they are diferent enough to not get confused.

This is like saying Ford should sue all car companies because people could buy a Toyota thinking it is a Ford. Or like saying Phillips should sue Sony because people could buy a Sony flat screen thinking is a Phillips just because both are rectangular with a screen.

2nd. If people get confused is apples marketing team fault for not promoting and identifying properly their product on the market.

3rd I'm still waiting you to tell me what makes them soo increadible similar apart from been rectangular shape with a touchscreen.
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