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Originally Posted by guyladouche View Post
Version numbers are only practical for troubleshooting purposes.

But if the version number is tracked anyway (just in a more-conspicuous sort of way), what's the point in trying to cover it up? I mean, they have to track it, it's gotta be recorded somewhere in the code, why go to the trouble of masking it to the average user? I mean, the only time I even see my version number is if I go to help > about.

I'm confused by the reason to change, though it really doesn't matter to me all that much.
Here is the discussion on the Mozilla newsgroup.

I am not sure what Mozilla's plans are, but they want to mimic the nature of web apps like Google Docs, Gmail, etc. They do not have version numbers known to the public (although they likely have internal build names).

Firefox is planning to get rid of the version number from all literature on their website. Chrome has already done this.

It seems Mozilla wants to turn Firefox into a "rolling release" without version numbers sort of like some distributions of Linux.
Edited by Riou - 8/15/11 at 1:58pm
post #22 of 70
What I want to know, is what the hell happened to the version tracking system we all used to use as programmers, it wasn't that hard, and it was capable of tracking an indefinite number of versions, while keeping the end-user with a more simple idea of what version number he was running.

For example, Firefox 3.06 build 506. Or for nightly revisions, Firefox 3.06 rev 112900.

Then, following something common like Kernel's version numbers for the end-user, the more decimal places out the digit increment is in a 3-digit version number, the smaller the update.

I.e.
3.06 vs 3.07 is a minor change, say a small bugfix.
3.10 vs 3.06 is a GUI overhaul
4.00 vs 3.xx is a Major bug fix, an addition of a new rendering algorithm multiple advancements in program efficiency and a memory leak patch.
    
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I like version numbers in my About tab.
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Here is the discussion on the Mozilla newsgroup.

I am not sure what Mozilla's plans are, but they want to mimic the nature of web apps like Google Docs, Gmail, etc. They do not have version numbers known to the public (although they likely have internal build names).

Firefox is planning to get rid of the version number from all literature on their website. Chrome has already done this.

It seems Mozilla wants to turn Firefox into a "rolling release" without version numbers sort of like some distributions of Linux.
I can still see my version of Chrome: 13.0.782.112 m
post #25 of 70
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Originally Posted by Faster_is_better View Post
Would be fine if its an option, to just let it stay up to date. But even if you did allow it to do so, I would expect if an update had any major GUI changes, it would notify you first, and ask "If you update, it will look like this: [screenshot] and have these new features x x x x, if you still wish to update then click [bam]

If someone was used to 3.6 and FF autoupdated to 4.x for example they would probably rage. GUI is way to different.
I doubt they'll use such a massive change again, every 6 weeks means it'd be incremental.
    
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I won't let a minor change like this stop me from using the best browser. I don't like it but it's not going to bother me.
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This is probably because they realised they messed up.

They saw Chrome taking market share away from them, and jumping ahead in version numbers, so they thought "well, the uninformed public that just arrived has no idea when Chrome started or whether the amount of upgrades really justifies it being on version 13 right now, but they will probably guess it's much better than a lowly Firefox 4.0, right ?"

That is why we are currently at Firefox 6, with 7 coming next month and 8 already available in the Nightly builds. They are trying to catch up to Chrome.... and IE9, which is much better than IE8 (and Opera, which also has a high version number).

However, once they realised that sometimes too much is too much, and that some people may actually start perceiving such artificial version numbers as a bit hollow in major changes, they might not be too happy about that.

Hence this new approach. I mean, what would the next logical step be, right ? They are only doing this to catch up to the others. In all honesty nobody believes they would continue with this ridiculous schedule after more than a few months. In a few years we would be using what, Firefox v 24 ?

I don't personally have a problem with that, it's the general quality of the browser that matters, but if they would keep that rhythm then they would have to explain better to people that they changed the meaning of a major version number upgrade, and I believe they have failed to do so up until now.
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Only prolonging FF inevitability into an obscure existence, in which only fanboys care.
 
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I can still see my version of Chrome: 13.0.782.112 m
I meant when you download Chrome from Google's web page, they do not list the version number next to the name Google Chrome on their web page. It just says Google Chrome.
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FF had memory leak issues before, and I haven't seen it in a while so I don't even get what they keep fixing...
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