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Originally Posted by Tunagoblin;14594285 
BenQ looks very good, though...
Especially it has the feature I use. (PIP is nice.)
But at the same time I hear it has poor construction and backlight bleeding issue.
I wish I could see the actual thing.....

I am also considering the BenQx3, it does bother me though that the stand seems kind of flimsy, although i like the easy adjustability of it. My friend actually has 1 , and there is no bleeding. The picture quality is great, the PIP is really nice.
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I still have a 1600x1200 CRT (A mint Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 87TXM) and my Quadro FX does 1920x1200 over VGA. Not a single dead scan line or pixel and it has barely 200hrs on it since it was pulled new out of my storage unit 2 months ago. Best monitor for CS:S and TF2 EVER. Colors are perfect and I calibrated it with my HueyPro X-Rite calibrator I bought for my W510. The refresh rate is good enough it doesn't cause strain and smooth as butter without V-Sync on.
 
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@ OP: I bought an FW900 from Manyak because I was unhappy with 120hz LCDs. A month later I bought another one from a local off of craigslist. I've bought and returned a HP zr24w and the 120hz Viewsonic. They both are terrible next to an FW900.

Also NY is the east cost capital of FW900's on craiglist so shame on you for not owning one.

Yup, NY most certainly is. You can find them all over craigslist and thrift shops (I lived about 20 minutes away from Manyak on Long Island before I moved to Texas. Funny, because after buying the monitor from him we ended up becoming pretty good friends. Thanks, FW900, haha).

@ goodfellarobert: Can you describe the front bezel of your monitor? It's very possible that you have the FW900 that I owned, depending on when you bought it thumb.gif.
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BFG sticker on the front bezel and a small dent on the left?! smile.gif

@OP Just be patient and don't waste any time or money on IPS/120hz/whatever. Just hang on to your current CRT and wait for the right time to get an FW900. You are going to have no problem finding one in NY when the time is right. I suggest you start researching them now so you know what to look for.
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Originally Posted by goodfellarobert;14596632 
BFG sticker on the front bezel and a small dent on the left?! smile.gif

@OP Just be patient and don't waste any time or money on IPS/120hz/whatever. Just hang on to your current CRT and wait for the right time to get an FW900. You are going to have no problem finding one in NY when the time is right. I suggest you start researching them now so you know what to look for.

Hahaha yep, that's mine smile.gif
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Originally Posted by goodfellarobert;14596632 
BFG sticker on the front bezel and a small dent on the left?! smile.gif

@OP Just be patient and don't waste any time or money on IPS/120hz/whatever. Just hang on to your current CRT and wait for the right time to get an FW900. You are going to have no problem finding one in NY when the time is right. I suggest you start researching them now so you know what to look for.

I think I'll do that.
I'll be more happy with getting SSD.
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Hahaha yep, that's mine smile.gif

Maybe it'll be mine next. tongue.gif
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You want the best monitor ever, for gaming + everything else? Get an FW900. I had one of them (Manyak had three, I bought one from him) and I almost cried the day I sold it (had to, needed money to move to Texas).

It's 24", 2304x1440 @ 85Hz, 16:10, and well... the best CRT to date. When the time comes to get back into gaming, I'm not getting an IPS. I'm getting another FW900.

This is good advice. Also what goodfellarobert said.

I own 2x F520 (4:3 version of the FW900) and one P1220 (a bit worse than a F520 but somewhere near it). The only reason I haven't got an FW900 is because there are none where I live. None. Zero. During the last year, nobody has sold an FW900 on the only finnish auction site. I would know, I've checked daily (since that's a good place to get cheap monitors). Finland just doesn't have enough people to have anyone selling them. Which is a shame.


I should also add that the door is closing in on them fast though. Less of them are on the market every day.
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Originally Posted by Tunagoblin;14596911 
I think I'll do that.
I'll be more happy with getting SSD.



Maybe it'll be mine next. tongue.gif

Its a small world so you never know. Jay Leno had a quote about cars but it applies to high end CRTs these days: You don't really own them. You just enjoy and maintain them until the next owner comes along.

Its sad that its a dead technology and thiner is the new thing. I'd really think about saving your money on an SSD though. I think you will be much happier with a FW900 if you are more gamer than hardware enthusist.
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post #29 of 84
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This is a question strictly asking for people moved on to LCD from CRT and KNOWS how good CRT is for FPS gaming.
So no need to post if you think "can't tell the difference between 60Hz and 120Hz" or "IPS looks way better".
Since I still love my CRT (20" 66lbs beast. 1600x1200 100Hz, 1280x1024 150Hz) and never felt "right" with any LCD monitors I've tried until this day.
(due to responsiveness, contrast ratio, ghosting)
If you have played any FPS games competitively and used to looking at CRT with 100+ true fps with vivid color without any ghosting on top of the 1ms response time, it is hard to move on to anything else.
Being brutally honest with you... yes. I just (like a week ago) moved from an IBM P275 21" aperture grille CRT to a Dell UltraSharp U2410 24" IPS LCD (specs list the response time as 6ms). There is a noticeable blur and trailing and ghosting or whatever you want to call it. I can even notice it in slow (30FPS) games like The Sims 3, Tiberium Wars, and even at the desktop. It's slightly dizzying at it's worst, but it's not outright terrible overall. I cannot speak for 120Hz TN panels, however.

I felt the same way as you. People told me "time to upgrade" and "CRTs have no merit left" and "LCDs have surpassed them in all areas", all of this three years back, and even today that's an outright lie, let alone back then. I think I'm done with CRT due to some practical issues, but... I miss it. That being said, I do still love my LCD, but yes, the blur/response time/ghosting is a mentionable issue compared to the CRT.
Edited by Princess Garnet - 8/16/11 at 6:57am
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I'm content with my AW2310.
I agree that CRT monitors are better, but at this point, I don't care. A few weeks of adjustment, and I feel like I'm missing nothing with the AW2310; I've gained a monitor that takes little space, looks excellent on my desk, has excellent image quality/responsiveness, and doesn't seem to be burning through my eye sockets (which is honestly, the main reason I'm done with CRT's; I was getting headaches constantly).
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