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yes, SB is boring. part of the reason I don't have mine anymore.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait a minute.

Boring? Are you serious? You got rid of it because you think it's boring? So are you saying that you don't care for its extreme speed and power?
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post #12 of 28
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4.5Ghz at 1.296v while using the "standard" SB settings. A hundred or so reboots later, I dropped it down to 1.288v for 4.6Ghz. I don't know about you, but I consider that to be a HUGE improvement. SB is actually fairly complicated, it only seems simple if one doesn't understand that seemingly unrelated features actually affect each other in unexpected ways. You can exploit that to achive great results once you figure how how your motherboard and processor work.

The people who say SB is simple/boring are the people that don't have the patience to test hundreds of combinations. Even if 99 provide no result, the 100th could drastically improve your overclock.
Believe me, lol i have run the gamut, side by side with munaim1 figuring out little peculiarities with SB, its still, in my Opinion nowhere near as complex as 1366 or even OCing an AMD chip. Still i wouldnt go as far as to call it fairly complicated.

Its not hard to figure out that the chips will operate at various vcores outside of the "standard" settings, or even when you tinker with many of the settings there are to tweak, if you already have a stable OC from doing the standard minimum you will not really deviate leaps and bounds from those standard settings when you begin tweaking.
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post #13 of 28
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Believe me, lol i have run the gamut, side by side with munaim1 figuring out little peculiarities with SB, its still, in my Opinion nowhere near as complex as 1366 or even OCing an AMD chip. Still i wouldnt go as far as to call it fairly complicated.

Its not hard to figure out that the chips will operate at various vcores outside of the "standard" settings, or even when you tinker with many of the settings there are to tweak, if you already have a stable OC from doing the standard minimum you will not really deviate leaps and bounds from those standard settings when you begin tweaking.
Whether or not you see drastic improvements from the bare minimum is irrelevant. There are still hundreds of tweak combinations that can be tried before increasing the vcore in Sandy Bridge. The goal of overclocking (at least to me) is to get the best possible performance out of my processor while maintaining solid temperatures under acceptable voltage. Just because you don't see the value in spending many, many hours tweaking a Sandy Bridge system to drop the voltage a bit doesn't make SB simple, it just means you're unwilling to dedicate that time.

I've overclocked many processors in many sockets and I wouldn't consider Sandy Bridge to be simple compared to any of them.
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post #14 of 28
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I've played with every single facet of all the mentioned settings (all voltages, etc)
x58 was much more fulfilling and was much more comprehensive in terms of what you could actually tweak... uncore, qpi, memory... etc were all much more hands on than sb.

Now i play with ram; manually configuring every single timing is the only thing that is somewhat less simplistic vs cpu tweaking
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post #15 of 28
Yeah, well they had to simplify it to make more money.

It's the same reason why Microsoft simplified Windows.

About 99% of the world doesn't understand what we do in the least bit, but many of them want to. So when these things are simplified, it makes these things more accessible to them which means they buy it instead of being afraid of it.
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Yeah, well they had to simplify it to make more money.

It's the same reason why Microsoft simplified Windows.

About 99% of the world doesn't understand what we do in the least bit, but many of them want to. So when these things are simplified, it makes these things more accessible to them which means they buy it instead of being afraid of it.
I guess some people just miss manually entering hexadecimal values into a program buffer and waiting days for their results.
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I guess some people just miss manually entering hexadecimal values into a program buffer and waiting days for their results.
hahahahahahaha
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait a minute.

Boring? Are you serious? You got rid of it because you think it's boring? So are you saying that you don't care for its extreme speed and power?
yes.

computers are a hobby for me. If it is not fun, what is the point.

AMD/1366/1156/775 are much more fun to mess with. Particularly AMD since phII scales so nicely
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yes.

computers are a hobby for me. If it is not fun, what is the point.

AMD/1366/1156/775 are much more fun to mess with. Particularly AMD since phII scales so nicely
i miss my old 1100T... and when i had it i didn't have any ln2... now that i do.. man

no cold bug issues at all
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Oh. It's just that my computer is everything to me. I live at it (seriously). So upgrading to Sandy Bridge has just made it a million times better. It's like getting a much better house. Or, like going from a cheap apartment to a really nice house.

So, that's where I'm coming from. I understand our differences now and I respect them.
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