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Yes, I know. Of course I know that not every player is a douchebag. BattleNet or not, the community will still be bad because DotA, HoN, and LoL players will switch to DotA 2. Just because it isn't using BattleNet doesn't mean a whole lot. Many DotA players don't even play on BattleNet since they play on Garena. What I'm trying to say is that it is foolish to think that the community is going to be way better just because it isn't on BattleNet. That is like saying that Battlefield 3 won't be on Steam, so it is going to be a bad game.
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I think its fun to see the trolls and douchebags in the game, I laugh every time they talk
Yeah it is pretty funny sometimes. Most competitive games are friendly anyhow.
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Probably not gonna buy this..
Leage of Legends does a excellent job for me.
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You might be more foolish to think that it won't be better. There is going to be a coaching and training system for beginners as well as a matchmaking system to place players within the relatively same skill level in the same games. Of course you won't be able to avoid it entirely but I'm pretty sure it'll be easier to avoid the douchebaggery, if you will.
No, that is not what I am saying. Have you even played the game at all? I was referring to the players who take the game seriously. Whether the hardcore or the ones trying to play at a tournament level. Have you ever been harassed by a player who is insulting and flaming you during a game for doing something small? For example, the players who ***** at you for not playing a supportive role when you are the tank or the initiator. The players who are pissed off because the game isn't going their way, so instead they are blaming the team and not himself.

I know that this occurs in other games sometimes, but games like DotA takes the cake. Not even CoD players are this bad since most of them just play TDM or any solo mode. So what if DotA 2 has the coaching and the tools necessary for a beginner to use? HoN has the same thing with the tutorial and the resources on their site for beginning players to use. They even have matchmaking, but it is hit or miss since higher tier players make smurf accounts for ****s and giggles. It is whether the player wants to utilize it or not.

Of course, this is HoN itself, but the same happens in DotA. IceFrog and others run DotA related sites that has guides and what not for beginners to read. I am sure that DotA 2 will do well since IceFrog is behind it and Valve is giving financial support. This is what IceFrog needed since the WC3 engine is limited because of its age.

All I am trying to say is that games like DotA will always have similar communities. Even LoL has the problem, but not as bad as DotA or HoN since they consider it more hardcore than LoL. Besides, DotA 2 is being made by the guy who is responsible for making DotA insanely popular. Why wouldn't the current DotA and HoN players switch? Therefore, they'll bring the same attitude that had since the start.
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Bah, I want gameplay vids, they can keep the trailers.
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post #25 of 46
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No, that is not what I am saying. Have you even played the game at all? I was referring to the players who take the game seriously. Whether the hardcore or the ones trying to play at a tournament level. Have you ever been harassed by a player who is insulting and flaming you during a game for doing something small? For example, the players who ***** at you for not playing a supportive role when you are the tank or the initiator. The players who are pissed off because the game isn't going their way, so instead they are blaming the team and not himself.

I know that this occurs in other games sometimes, but games like DotA takes the cake. Not even CoD players are this bad since most of them just play TDM or any solo mode. So what if DotA 2 has the coaching and the tools necessary for a beginner to use? HoN has the same thing with the tutorial and the resources on their site for beginning players to use. They even have matchmaking, but it is hit or miss since higher tier players make smurf accounts for ****s and giggles. It is whether the player wants to utilize it or not.

Of course, this is HoN itself, but the same happens in DotA. IceFrog and others run DotA related sites that has guides and what not for beginners to read. I am sure that DotA 2 will do well since IceFrog is behind it and Valve is giving financial support. This is what IceFrog needed since the WC3 engine is limited because of its age.

All I am trying to say is that games like DotA will always have similar communities. Even LoL has the problem, but not as bad as DotA or HoN since they consider it more hardcore than LoL. Besides, DotA 2 is being made by the guy who is responsible for making DotA insanely popular. Why wouldn't the current DotA and HoN players switch? Therefore, they'll bring the same attitude that had since the start.
I agree with everything you said, simply because I know from experience that it's true. +1
Edited by Goaky - 8/15/11 at 4:17pm
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No, that is not what I am saying. Have you even played the game at all? I was referring to the players who take the game seriously. Whether the hardcore or the ones trying to play at a tournament level. Have you ever been harassed by a player who is insulting and flaming you during a game for doing something small? For example, the players who ***** at you for not playing a supportive role when you are the tank or the initiator. The players who are pissed off because the game isn't going their way, so instead they are blaming the team and not himself.

I know that this occurs in other games sometimes, but games like DotA takes the cake. Not even CoD players are this bad since most of them just play TDM or any solo mode. So what if DotA 2 has the coaching and the tools necessary for a beginner to use? HoN has the same thing with the tutorial and the resources on their site for beginning players to use. They even have matchmaking, but it is hit or miss since higher tier players make smurf accounts for ****s and giggles. It is whether the player wants to utilize it or not.

Of course, this is HoN itself, but the same happens in DotA. IceFrog and others run DotA related sites that has guides and what not for beginners to read. I am sure that DotA 2 will do well since IceFrog is behind it and Valve is giving financial support. This is what IceFrog needed since the WC3 engine is limited because of its age.

All I am trying to say is that games like DotA will always have similar communities. Even LoL has the problem, but not as bad as DotA or HoN since they consider it more hardcore than LoL. Besides, DotA 2 is being made by the guy who is responsible for making DotA insanely popular. Why wouldn't the current DotA and HoN players switch? Therefore, they'll bring the same attitude that had since the start.
Of course I have had people like that on my teams but haven't you ever squelched them or muted them if you are using Vent? It just takes a couple of seconds and then you forget that they were even there. And to be honest I almost always played competitive games on Vent with my friends so there was really minimal conflict. The fact of the matter is there are ways to avoid it and it is up to you to do so.

I do agree though that the flaming/trolling is probably the worst in MOBA games. Just ignore or mute people if they bother you that much.

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Bah, I want gameplay vids, they can keep the trailers.
2 more days! Gameplay will be seen for the first time at Gamescon in Germany.
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Trailer is awesome. We're 1 day and 10 hours away from the million dollar tournament so that should be exciting too. The only thing I'm concerned with is the new heroes (if ever) that they are going to introduce as the game ages. DotA only had the WCIII engine to work with. Now, with HoN many of the heroes are very unbalanced in comparison to the DotA heroes they ported over; to the point where they tried to buff and in my opinion failed at reworking the DotA heroes. I mean, how is it fair that Blood Seeker's blood sense works off of his own allies.
    
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I agree with everything you said, simply because I know from experience that it's completely true. +1
Again, I do believe it is bad but there are ways to avoid it. Up to you.

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Trailer is awesome. We're 1 day and 10 hours away from the million dollar tournament so that should be exciting too. The only thing I'm concerned with is the new heroes (if ever) that they are going to introduce as the game ages. DotA only had the WCIII engine to work with. Now, with HoN many of the heroes are very unbalanced in comparison to the DotA heroes they ported over; to the point where they tried to buff and in my opinion failed at reworking the DotA heroes. I mean, how is it fair that Blood Seeker's blood sense works off of his own allies.
Yeah I actually played HoN for a few months. I eventually quit because of things they either couldn't get right with abilities or because of the new heroes. They were even mixing and matching new HoN abilities with old DotA abilities on some of the same heroes.

Its like its trying to be DotA but different at the same time. Def. didn't work for me.
Edited by Zulli85 - 8/15/11 at 4:22pm
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Haven't played any type of dota for 2 years or so (I had beenplaying it on and off since 2004) but this just might get me back into it. I'll wait and see.
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Of course I have had people like that on my teams but haven't you ever squelched them or muted them if you are using Vent? It just takes a couple of seconds and then you forget that they were even there. And to be honest I almost always played competitive games on Vent with my friends so there was really minimal conflict. The fact of the matter is there are ways to avoid it and it is up to you to do so.

I do agree though that the flaming/trolling is probably the worst in MOBA games. Just ignore or mute people if they bother you that much.



2 more days! Gameplay will be seen for the first time at Gamescon in Germany.
Actually, it doesn't bother me that much since I've grown use to it. I was just referring that the community will stay the same or not. I don't mute or ignore players if I am playing because I want to win. They maybe be *****ing, but like in real life, you'll have to deal with these types of people. I may not like the player, but if he is actually playing and not going afk or feeding, then I'll cooperate. If it bugged me this much, then I would have quit the game and not even bother posting in this thread.
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