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Hi,

I need some extra SATA 3 ports, for one reason because I accidentally ripped out my SATA Port #1. I've looked at a couple of SATA 3 cards but they have all some of the ports externally, like 2 SATA 3 ports inside the case and 2 ports on the back, outside the case at the i/o shield.

I can't use external SATA ports so I'd like to have all the SATA ports inside the case, for additional HDDs or whatnot.

Am greatful for recommendations, if such cards even exist.

Thanks.
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There is no such thing as "SATA 3", man. There are SATA 1.5GB/s, 3GB/s (this is what you mean, right?) and 6GB/s.

There are many choices of internal, PCIe cards that can give you additional SATA ports.
Just find one that is cheap or good for you (size, speed, support, etc). But you should try to get one that sports a solid/reliable controller like Marvel or Intel.

This is a good example, if a bit expensive.
You can get cheaper and even supporting SATA 6GB/s.
Edited by Ulver - 8/15/11 at 11:49pm
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There is no such thing as "SATA 3", man. There are SATA 1.5GB/s, 3GB/s (this is what you mean, right?) and 6GB/s.

There are many choices of internal, PCI cards that can give you additional SATA ports.
Just find one that is cheap or good for you (size, speed, support, etc). But you should try to get one that sports a solid/reliable controller like Marvel or Intel.

This is a good example, if a bit expensive.
You can get cheaper and even supporting SATA 6GB/s.
I thought the SATA 6Gb/s is SATA 3 resp. SATA III. I need the 6Gb/s SATA.

This is expensive, I thought about spending maybe 60$ tops. Is there something at approx. that price?
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Do you mean PCI or PCI-E.

PCI doesn't have the bandwidth needed to support even a single SATA 1.0 (1.5GB/s) port at full speed.

For SATA 3, you need a PCI-E 2.0 lane per port to avoid appreciable bottlenecks. So, for four ports you ideally want a PCI-E 2.0 4x card, for example. However, without fast SSDs being actively used simultaneously, you don't strictly need that kind of bandwidth and could easily get away with something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16816115072 , depending on the number of ports you need and what exactly you are doing with them.

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I thought the SATA 6Gb/s is SATA 3 resp. SATA III.
It is.

Sata 6GB/s is the third major revision of the SATA spec.

Ulver is mistaken.
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I don't believe they make a PCI card for SATA 3(6gb/s). Only PCI-E
 
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Do you mean PCI or PCI-E.

PCI doesn't have the bandwidth needed to support even a single SATA 1.0 (1.5GB/s) port at full speed.

For SATA 3, you need a PCI-E 2.0 lane per port to avoid appreciable bottlenecks. So, for four ports you ideally want a PCI-E 2.0 4x card, for example.



It is.

Sata 6GB/s is the third revision of the SATA spec.

Ulver is mistaken.
If only PCI-E 2.0 supports 6 GB/s SATA then I need that. It just should fit into my (signature) mainboard. Is my mainboard capable of supporting a SATA 6Gb/s PCI-E 2.0 4x card?
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Your motherboard has one slot with exactly that specification (PCIe 2.0 x4). It's the third slot from the top down. But I think you can also use it on a vacant PCIe 2.0 x16 slot.

You could try this one, I heard they are good but never had one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16816115072
This is an PCIe X1, so the second slot from the top down.

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It is.

Sata 6GB/s is the third revision of the SATA spec.

Ulver is mistaken.
Nope. There is no such thing as "SATA 3" or "SATA III".
Newegg and all the other sites just use that cause is a common misnomer.
SATA 6GB/s is SATA Revision 3.0.
It is not used like that (SATA 3) by manufacturers to avoid confusion between the revision and the speed (SATA 3 could be mistaken by SATA 3GB/s). So it is a nomenclature convention.


P.S.: And this was my 1000th post on OCN , how boring can I be?! Ok, going to shoot myself in the head, be back soon.
Edited by Ulver - 8/16/11 at 12:03am
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Originally Posted by 12Honk34 View Post
If only PCI-E 2.0 supports 6 GB/s SATA then I need that. It just should fit into my (signature) mainboard. Is my mainboard capable of supporting a SATA 6Gb/s PCI-E 2.0 4x card?
Yes.

Assuming you have only one GPU, you still have a 4x and a 16x PCI-E slot that could hold such a card.

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So it is a nomenclature convention.
It's nitpicking.
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It's nitpicking.
They have their reasons, but yeah: you're right

And there goes post 1001
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Your motherboard has one slot with exactly that specification (PCIe 2.0 x4). It's the third slot from the top down. But I think you can also use it on a vacant PCIe 2.0 x16 slot.

You could try this one, I heard they are good but never had one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16816115072
One port seems a little sparse to waste a PCI-E slot on. Isn't there a card with at least 2 or 3 better yet 4 ports?
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