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nvm. didn't look at your location.
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Neither of those. Get a WD Green 2TB.

HDDs all have a performance arc. This is due to more data passing under the head on the edge of the circular platter. As the head moves towards the center, less data passes under the head, and thus you have less speed.



For FRAPS recording, only sequential speed really matters. HDTune is quite handy in this regard, as it visibly shows you where performance starts to drop off.

If you require 90MB/sec for 1080p 60fps recording, then you could deduce that my drive would provide that until about 60% in, which is ~384GB.

But I don't actually know what MB/sec you require for recording 1080p, so lets just say that more is better?


Now, what happens when I overlay a very fast 1TB drive with a slower 2TB drive?

Well, we can see that at approximately 600GB, the 7200RPM F3 1TB is actually slower than the 5400RPM F4 2TB. And the F3 drops past 100MB/sec at approximately 800GB, while the F4 drops past it at approximately 1200GB. Which one is going to provide you with longer smoother recording?



And there lies your answer. Grab a 5400RPM 2TB storage drive, and go crazy on FRAPS recording. You can often find them on sale for just $75.

If you end up wanting to use the entire drive, split it into two partitions. Use the first half for FRAPS recording, and use the second half for storage. That way your FRAPS framerate is never affected.
     
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Link to a $30 250GB 2.5" HDD in the marketplace. US only. Then I saw that you're in Australia.
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Wow, Kramy, that's a great post! +rep
But, if I could still get a blue with more space on it, would that be better? Because it's still got a higher rotational speed than the green. I can get a 1TB blue for around $70.

And kora04, I see now
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Both my HDD's are blues just because they are more cost effective.
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Kramy's post makes several good points (and explains why I only use the first half of any given drive/array for FRAPS and save the rest for rarely used storage/backup.

However, depending on the settings you record at, a single green, or any single HDD for that matter, may not be enough.

60 fps, or even 30fps with lossless RGB (helpful in dark scenes) recordings at 1080p are enormous, even with FRAPS' compression. Once I got past 1680x1050 resolution, a single drive just didn't cut it for recording some games.

Cheap (~$100) RAID 0 may be the way to go.
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Wow, Kramy, that's a great post! +rep
But, if I could still get a blue with more space on it, would that be better? Because it's still got a higher rotational speed than the green. I can get a 1TB blue for around $70.

And kora04, I see now
His post suggests that a 2TB is faster then a 1TB for longer...

So you would get more storage space, at faster speeds by going a larger drive.
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His post suggests that a 2TB is faster then a 1TB for longer...

So you would get more storage space, at faster speeds by going a larger drive.
And that's what I was suggesting by putting in the idea of going from 1TB from 500GB. Besides, I won't be recording half an hour or an hour of footage at a time, most likely only around 20mins maximum. I also can't afford a 2TB blue or black, and I know his post suggest that a green is fine, but I'm still not convinced. The blue has a faster write speed than the green, and I think that has to be factored in as well, and is more important than capacity for the time frame I am recording in. As for the raid idea, I will look into prices etc, but it is a good idea
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Wow, Kramy, that's a great post! +rep
But, if I could still get a blue with more space on it, would that be better? Because it's still got a higher rotational speed than the green. I can get a 1TB blue for around $70.
For FRAPS recording?

Nope, a 5400RPM 2TB storage drive is going to beat it. 5400RPM drives tend to have awful access times, but their sequential speeds are fine - and as mentioned, for FRAPS recording that's all that really matters...

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Kramy's post makes several good points (and explains why I only use the first half of any given drive/array for FRAPS and save the rest for rarely used storage/backup.


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However, depending on the settings you record at, a single green, or any single HDD for that matter, may not be enough.

60 fps, or even 30fps with lossless RGB (helpful in dark scenes) recordings at 1080p are enormous, even with FRAPS' compression. Once I got past 1680x1050 resolution, a single drive just didn't cut it for recording some games.

Cheap (~$100) RAID 0 may be the way to go.
You make some good points. I observed the same thing at 2048x1152 res - a single WD Green wouldn't cut it. I had to enable RAM caching to record smoothly at that res - but once my RAM fills up with FRAPS data, the framerate drops.

RAID would be the way to go for recording at such high resolutions with high framerates. He might be able to get away with a single Hitachi drive, as they tend to have rather high sequential speeds - but RAID-0 gives him way more headroom.
     
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Hmmm, ok. I know that once again these aren't greens, but for some reason a single 2Tb is rather expensive on ebay in Australia. What about 2 of these [http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Western-D...tem19c4e840b3] in raid 0?
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