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Hmmm, ok. I know that once again these aren't greens, but for some reason a single 2Tb is rather expensive on ebay in Australia. What about 2 of these [http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Western-D...tem19c4e840b3] in raid 0?
How about two of these?

http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-22040155...3_5"_Inte

Or these?

http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-22040413...3_5"_Inte

Even one of the last one might work fine.
     
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Does it matter that they aren't SATA 3 though? Will having that extra bandwidth increase the performance? And btw, thank you for the Aussie links
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Does it matter that they aren't SATA 3 though? Will having that extra bandwidth increase the performance?
No, it doesn't matter. Only the fastest HDDs out there get close to saturating SATA2's available bandwidth. Most affordable HDDs won't even saturate SATA1...

So SATA3 is good for being future-proof, and helps a bit if you're into large arrays utilizing port multipliers. (One port can be split to 4 drives, for example)

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And btw, thank you for the Aussie links
No problem.
     
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post #24 of 31
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Thank you so much for your advice mate, life saver! I will look into getting those caviar green/spinpoint drives and putting them in raid 0 then. Thanks for all the help everyone, learned a lot!
Edited by theSpacec0wboy - 8/16/11 at 3:01am
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There is also the Spinpoint F4 2tb or WD green 2tb for $85 each from pccasegear.com.au
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1 week old thread, but, completely relevant and helpful to a question I have and was literally making a thread about it at the same time I read this thread.

In my current system I've been saving raw FRAPS captures to a 5200RPM IDE 166 drive, my OS drive is a 7200RPM Sata II 3gb/s drive.

In the new system on it's way I chose 2 Western Digital 1TB 7200 RPM Sata III 6gb/s drives, 1 for the OS, 1 for storage/fraps.

I'll also have an i5-2500k with a massive OC.

Also note my current specs to see if that in itself was hindering Fraps.

Would it be feasible to expect to not have a negative performance impact when recording at 1080p full frame at 60fps ?

Also, what I gather is that as long as I don't save unneeded Fraps captures, a 1TB drive will have no issues if I save it to a physical drive with nothing else using it's resources + make sure to defrag it often, which I already do, and don't save too much raw data on it?
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There's always an impact from FRAPS recording. When I record and aim for 60fps, I get a stable ~56FPS. I think that's because some videocard memory bandwidth is used to copy each frame, some PCIe bandwidth, some CPU time, etc. - there's lots of places where being a little bit too slow adds up.

Anyway, your new WD 1TB Blacks should have sequential speeds almost twice as fast as your 300GB OS drive, and possibly three times as fast as your old PATA drive. The odds are on your side that 1080p recording is going to be a lot more smooth.

With an overclocked i5 2500k and a fast videocard, you've got a really good chance.
     
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Unless you are making a video for something other than youtube, facebook, etc... I really don't see the point in trying to capture more than 30 fps anyhow.

I can run some games at 120fps with vsync on while running Fraps, but I really don't see the point. All it does is make much bigger files. I just set it to 30 fps for vids I plan to upload.
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There's always an impact from FRAPS recording. When I record and aim for 60fps, I get a stable ~56FPS. I think that's because some videocard memory bandwidth is used to copy each frame, some PCIe bandwidth, some CPU time, etc. - there's lots of places where being a little bit too slow adds up.

Anyway, your new WD 1TB Blacks should have sequential speeds almost twice as fast as your 300GB OS drive, and possibly three times as fast as your old PATA drive. The odds are on your side that 1080p recording is going to be a lot more smooth.

With an overclocked i5 2500k and a fast videocard, you've got a really good chance.
Thank your for the input, it sounds great.

I tried Playclaw once, and it's multicore support was superb, but, it wouldn't let me do raw saves to a storage device, I got a massive performance boost using it vs Fraps, but, it's also likely that there wasn't a HDD bandwidth issue since it wasn't saving raw data, it was compressing it on-the-fly. I should also state when I used Playclaw I was saving to the Sata II drive.

Apparently the WD's I'm getting aren't capable of RAID due to some latency time out issue or something, I'm not worried though, didn't plan on raiding them.

I'll be using a 570 in the system, with another one for SLI before Skyrim's release.

I'm actually going to sell my current system to help pay for the second 570.

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Unless you are making a video for something other than youtube, facebook, etc... I really don't see the point in trying to capture more than 30 fps anyhow.

I can run some games at 120fps with vsync on while running Fraps, but I really don't see the point. All it does is make much bigger files. I just set it to 30 fps for vids I plan to upload.
Well, for starters, look at your hardware hehe, that's a massively powerful system

Also, If you set Fraps to record at 30 FPS that will lock the game itself at 30fps, that's why you record at a higher framerate if you have a setup that can handle it so you don't prevent yourself from being capped at 30fps. There is a threshold though, meaning if your system with Fraps not running can't handle a game at that high of a framerate, Fraps would only make it worse.
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Apparently the WD's I'm getting aren't capable of RAID due to some latency time out issue or something, I'm not worried though, didn't plan on raiding them.
TLER - it keeps the drives from being kicked out of arrays when they get locked up trying to recover data from bad sectors.

It's not usually a problem - quite a few people here have WD Black RAID arrays without any issue.

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I'll be using a 570 in the system, with another one for SLI before Skyrim's release.
I'm not a huge fan of SLI - it seems to introduce lots of odd issues. But I see in FRAPS's changelog that they improved SLI support/performance a lot recently.

I hope it works well.
     
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