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Found the spec sheet: http://web1.toshiba.ca/support/techsupport/specs/mini-notebook/PLL52C-00H003.pdf

Officially they want DDR3-1066 and 2GiB is the max memory.

Would probably work with anything DDR3-800 and up, as well as with 4GiB SO-DIMMs, but to play it safe, just get a 2GiB, 204-pin, DDR3-1066 SO-DIMM. As beers says, anything faster wouldn't make any difference. Indeed, based on those screen shots, anything faster wouldn't be running at full speed regardless.

$13 dollars shipped from Newegg -- http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007609+600006178+600000406+600000445&QksAutoSuggestion=&ShowDeactivatedMark=False&Configurator=&IsNodeId=1&Subcategory=381&description=&Ntk=&CFG=&SpeTabStoreType=&AdvancedSearch=1&srchInDesc=
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It's definitely running at DDR3-800, but the memory is 1066 1333.

As for what to get for an upgrade. The NM10 chipset doesn't support anything higher than DDR3-1066, so just get whatever DDR3 SO-DIMM is cheapest. The SPD values at 800 or 1066 should be nearly identical for almost all of them.
But how do we know what each type (8500 or 1066) will be downgraded to, given that I don't have a BIOS that allows for changing the memory settings?
How can we tell to what speed each will be downgraded?

As you can see from my initial screenshot, my memory seems to run at something below the defined JEDIC values. But I can't tell the speed from that as the field that should read the speed is blank!
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Buy the cheapest DDR3 SO-DIMM of the size you want. It will be faster than what you need.
The prices are so close that price is not an issue. As for the issue of their both being faster than what I need, I'd like to have the satisfaction of having the better one, regardless.

Please also see my latest message posted immediately above this one.
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as well as with 4GiB SO-DIMMs,
If I upgrade to a Windows 7 version anything up from the Starter version, do you think, then, that about 3.5GB might be readable if I get up to 4GB of memory? I multitask to the point of what I really think that would clinically be seen as being to the extent of one having a psych disorder. *smile*

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anything faster wouldn't be running at full speed regardless.
But how can I tell in advance at what speed a particular memory unit will run? That's really the base issue here.

I appreciate everyone`s help.
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Try reseating the ram
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If that doesnt help try each stick individually
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But how do we know what each type (8500 or 1066) will be downgraded to, given that I don't have a BIOS that allows for changing the memory settings?
How can we tell to what speed each will be downgraded?

As you can see from my initial screenshot, my memory seems to run at something below the defined JEDIC values. But I can't tell the speed from that as the field that should read the speed is blank!
The whole purpose of the SPD values is so you don't need to manually configure the memory.

You memory appears to be running SPD profile #1, which is almost certainly there, even though it's cut off in CPU-Z.

Most systems can extrapolate timings that are between, or outside, JEDEC specs anyway. Regardless, Toshiba says that netbook takes DDR3-1066, so DDR3 1066 (or any thing with an SPD value for 1066, which is pretty much everything) should work fine.

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The prices are so close that price is not an issue. As for the issue of their both being faster than what I need, I'd like to have the satisfaction of having the better one, regardless.
The only value in the faster memory would be if you every swap that SO-DIMM to another computer at some point, or OC it in software.

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If I upgrade to a Windows 7 version anything up from the Starter version, do you think, then, that about 3.5GB might be readable if I get up to 4GB of memory? I multitask to the point of what I really think that would clinically be seen as being to the extent of one having a psych disorder. *smile*
If the BIOS can detect the memory (it probably can, the chipset supports at least 4GiB) and the IGP isn't eating too much of it, you should be able to see ~3 to 3.25GiB, on 32-bit Windows 7.

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But how can I tell in advance at what speed a particular memory unit will run? That's really the base issue here.
Virtually every DIMM or SO-DIMM is programed with SPD values for it's rated speed and all JEDEC specs lower than that speed. Even if yours is running outside JEDEC spec, that doesn't imply the memory itself is special (it's samsung oem DDR3-1333, as pure JEDEC as you can get), just that the BIOS can extrapolate timings for lower speeds.

Whatever speed it's running at now will very likely be whatever speed any SO-DIMM you put in it will run at.
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Blameless, your last post was probably the most clear and addressing-of-the-questions/issues reply I have ever received. I thank you kindly for your assistance and time.

Thanks also to all others who assisted.


Now let's see if the "rep" feature will work for someone as new as I am. *smile*
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