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In extreme cases yes, but kids having attention deficit as a result of being hyper active happens with all kids, it's how nature intended us to be, because when we are born into a brand new world everything around us excites our brains, our brains are trying to absorb and process all this new information. It's normal for children to be excited, sometimes over-excited.

Just because kids do not act calm and orderly like normal adults they diagnose it as a "disorder". Isn't that why their called "kids" in the first place?

If people insist on calling ADHD a disorder then I had rather heightened case of ADHD when I was a kid as well, especially after ingesting candy(sugar), but when I was a kid my family doctor didn't call it ADHD, they told my parents it's normal and instructed me to lay off the candy.

Personally I believe it's just another way for pharmaceutical companies to line their pockets with more cash, by labeling and diagnosing more and more "natural" human/children behaviors as "disorders". Just my view on these so-called "disorders". Feel free to disagree.
I don't eat much candy at all. And normally I'm a pretty calm person. I'm 20 so I'm not a kid anymore. (I don't mean that in a I'M 20 SO OBVIOUSLY I'M THE MOST MATURE PERSON EVER sort of way. I know I have a way to go, but I'm not a child.) However, I can't concentrate even on things I enjoy - though, this is also on really bad ADD days. It is a disorder, but I do believe that it is way over-diagnosed.
 
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I don't eat much candy at all. And normally I'm a pretty calm person. I'm 20 so I'm not a kid anymore. (I don't mean that in a I'M 20 SO OBVIOUSLY I'M THE MOST MATURE PERSON EVER sort of way. I know I have a way to go, but I'm not a child.) However, I can't concentrate even on things I enjoy - though, this is also on really bad ADD days. It is a disorder, but I do believe that it is way over-diagnosed.
It'll change as you get older. Stuff will settle and you'll learn to turn your disability into an advantage.

BTW, I'm speaking to you from 5 years into the future

The tangents my brain goes on are amazing. Sometimes they make me stock cold and go, "wait wat??".
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It'll change as you get older. Stuff will settle and you'll learn to turn your disability into an advantage.

BTW, I'm speaking to you from 5 years into the future

The tangents my brain goes on are amazing. Sometimes they make me stock cold and go, "wait wat??".
I get that some times. I have literally asked a question to someone and when they answered I asked if they could say that again...even though I asked. ;sldkfja;sldfj
I would like it to be five years in the future nao kthnxbai<3
 
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no wonder my brain feel like it hold heavy burden for me. i'm a adhd user. a heavy adhd.. i take a ADDERALL XR 15mg and for depression, paroxetine 10mg. thank god i learned lots of things by myself thru a pc i feel like i understand by ocing my brain with my medicines lol
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no wonder my brain feel like it hold heavy burden for me. i'm a adhd user. a heavy adhd.. i take a ADDERALL XR 15mg and for depression, paroxetine 10mg. thank god i learned lots of things by myself thru a pc i feel like i understand by ocing my brain with my medicines lol
You funny


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In extreme cases yes, but kids having attention deficit as a result of being hyper active happens with all kids, it's how nature intended us to be, because when we are born into a brand new world everything around us excites our brains, our brains are trying to absorb and process all this new information. It's normal for children to be excited, sometimes over-excited.

Just because kids do not act calm and orderly like normal adults they diagnose it as a "disorder". Isn't that why their called "kids" in the first place?

If people insist on calling ADHD a disorder then I had rather heightened case of ADHD when I was a kid as well, especially after ingesting candy(sugar), but when I was a kid my family doctor didn't call it ADHD, they told my parents it's normal and instructed me to lay off the candy.

Personally I believe it's just another way for pharmaceutical companies to line their pockets with more cash, by labeling and diagnosing more and more "natural" human/children behaviors as "disorders". Just my view on these so-called "disorders". Feel free to disagree.
ADHD isn't just being hyper when you have candy, most young people do that. I agree that ADHD is over-diagnosed, and perhaps wrongly diagnosed in some cases, but it is a disorder, and for people that actually have it (such as myself), it can severely affect your day-to-day life. I suggest you do more reading on it before saying stuff like "it's not even a disorder".

To start:
http://add.about.com/od/adhdthebasics/a/myths-adhd.htm
http://add.about.com/od/adhdthebasic...HD-is-Real.htm

And a blog that gives an insightful view into the world of someone with ADHD (I can strongly relate to many of his posts):
http://thesplinteredmind.blogspot.com
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ADHD isn't just being hyper when you have candy, most young people do that. I agree that ADHD is over-diagnosed, and perhaps wrongly diagnosed in some cases, but it is a disorder, and for people that actually have it (such as myself), it can severely affect your day-to-day life. I suggest you do more reading on it before saying stuff like "it's not even a disorder".

To start:
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Yup, in fact standard stimulants don't really pump somebody up with the disorder. I don't get sugar high, or caffeine high. Now if I take an absurd amount, like popping no-dos, things change (or SOME energy drinks, very few). It's a very short lived "high" compared to an average person. Were talking 1/2 the time, because of the cemical defficency already there.

There is so much to the disorder it's kinda weird, most of it is due to us (partly) understanding what chemicals do what in the brain. Or at least how studies go. Years ago we wouldn't have found the links to some of the disorders but now that is all changing.

Depression actually goes hand in hand with the heavy cases. It is in the minor cases too but not as often. With less of a frequency, it is kind of decieving because they might just mistake it for normal emotional fluxuations.
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Same here. Caffiene, energy drinks, etc. do little to nothing for me. A lot of sugar will make me hyperactive, but that's it.
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Same here. Caffiene, energy drinks, etc. do little to nothing for me. A lot of sugar will make me hyperactive, but that's it.
I shoud say it's different for each case. ADD/ADHD don't seem to have a universal genetic background. Which might lead us to having different disorders being grouped into the same section. The only way to get that figured out is more genetic screening/testing. It's going to be a while until we figure it all out, until then we are stuck guessing what drugs work best for each case. As you said sugar makes you hyper, not me. It's why they use a multitude of different drugs for it, the most common being a high stimulant as it has a generic way of rasing chem levels in the brain.

[edit] Think of it as how we use anti-biotics. Normally we use a generic anti-biotic for most low level things (ADD/ADHD being a low level disorder). Now that's all we can do and it seems to work alright for most cases so there is no need to research into a more specific drug. That is the problem we face right now, it's the same with anti-biotics. The generic one covers all the "smaller" cases, so nobody cares to figur that out. ADD/ADHD seems to have been lumped into the same area medically. I don't like it but there isn't much I can do atm.
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Yup, in fact standard stimulants don't really pump somebody up with the disorder. I don't get sugar high, or caffeine high. Now if I take an absurd amount, like popping no-dos, things change (or SOME energy drinks, very few). It's a very short lived "high" compared to an average person. Were talking 1/2 the time, because of the cemical defficency already there.

There is so much to the disorder it's kinda weird, most of it is due to us (partly) understanding what chemicals do what in the brain. Or at least how studies go. Years ago we wouldn't have found the links to some of the disorders but now that is all changing.

Depression actually goes hand in hand with the heavy cases. It is in the minor cases too but not as often. With less of a frequency, it is kind of decieving because they might just mistake it for normal emotional fluxuations.
ive had depression for around 7years now i never knew i had it at first but one day i went to the doctors and was diagnosed i got put onto anti depressants, which worked for me for about 4-5months but after that i stopped it came back, so i went back on them but my high's and lows got so bad doctors took me off em due to stuff i dont like to talk about too much, its been 2yrs since i took an anti depressant im alot more balanced out now but i do get depression still but not as near as bad as it used to be, which is great cause im lucky im still here today.
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