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Lol. Easy solution then, don't buy the game. I'm sorry but if you are complaining that jets don't belong in this game due to being unrealistic then buy AA or something. Did not know a game could not be fun if it were not hyper realistic.
Quick question though... Whats your opinion on respawning?
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Lol. Easy solution then, don't buy the game. I'm sorry but if you are complaining that jets don't belong in this game due to being unrealistic then buy AA or something. Did not know a game could not be fun if it were not hyper realistic.
Quick question though... Whats your opinion on respawning?
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Hate to break it to both of you guys, but neither tanks nor helis can "dominate" in bc2. If the other team is completely incompetent, and don't know how to use the tools at their disposal, maybe. Otherwise? No.



I agree. If it were up to me, "jets" in general would be out of BF3. The scale of destruction, speed, and power will never be properly balanced while at the same time keeping a semblance of "realism."



Yeah.. "faster." How much faster? They need to be 5-15x faster to make sense.

Even at subsonic speeds, a jet would cross the entire Caspian Border map in 3 seconds. Jets do not fit into an FPS IMO.



Again, "faster" isn't fast enough. And everything is wrong with the range.. modern fighters don't dogfight at 150 foot distances, especially not at 200 foot altitudes.

If jets were done properly, it would be the grunts on the ground doing the complaining, what with the GPS guided ordnance, cluster bombs, etc.



They're not; they're both first person shooters. It's not like we're comparing Ms. Pac-man with Madden NFL '96 or some such.

"Simulator" is entirely the wrong word for BF3, especially with the comically arcade-y jets everyone is going bananas for.

OT: Map looks great.. if a bit "tight."
you're obviously not a bf player, and who the hell ever said bf3 was a simulator? LOL

jets add another dynamic to the gameplay... it's not meant to be realistic. Come on man, obviously if this game was meant to be realistic you would need huge crazy maps to accomodate jets, and even helicopters for that matter...
Edited by ssgwright - 8/17/11 at 6:41am
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Lol. Easy solution then, don't buy the game. I'm sorry but if you are complaining that jets don't belong in this game due to being unrealistic then buy AA or something. Did not know a game could not be fun if it were not hyper realistic.
Quick question though... Whats your opinion on respawning?
Oh, I plan on buying the game. 2 copies, actually. Sorry I'm not a strong enough fanboy that I will blindly ignore it's faults (or at least, what I perceive are it's faults), and only sing it's praises though.

Respawning is a necessary component of a first person shooter; jets? ..Not so much.

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you're obviously not a bf player, and who the hell ever said bf3 was a simulator? LOL
Ooooh, but I am. Since 1942. Some people don't share your opinions?! OMG what's the world coming too?

Who said it was a sim? ..did you even read the quote directly above that sentence?
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this game is the true predecessor of bf2, did you complain about the jets in there as well?
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Awesome, jets seem slow but that's to be expected. Or else you'll cross the map in a few seconds haha. If ya complain about that, go and pick up LOMAC.
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Oh, I plan on buying the game. 2 copies, actually. Sorry I'm not a strong enough fanboy that I will blindly ignore it's faults (or at least, what I perceive are it's faults), and only sing it's praises though.

Respawning is a necessary component of a first person shooter; jets? ..Not so much.



Ooooh, but I am. Since 1942. Some people don't share your opinions?! OMG what's the world coming too?

Who said it was a sim? ..did you even read the quote directly above that sentence?
How are jets a fault though? You are expressing an opinion as fact. Obviously we won't have jets fly at subsonic speeds in this game due to balancing issues. The stage simply is not big enough for that type of warfare. Until we have hardware that can reproduce a 100sq. mile battlefield, this is what we have to use. That has nothing to due with fanboyism. Also, didn't know I could be a fanboy without ever playing the game.
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If any of you looked at previous posts you would see that Jets are faster than in BF2 and can fly just as high and that there is an afterburner as well.
   
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Yeah.. fun. Watching machines capable of Mach 2+ wallow around at 100kph 200 feet off the ground is not my idea of fun. It crushes any sense of immersion.

The speeds and altitudes were barely adequate for WW2 aircraft, they're just not appropriate for 2014.

Want to have fun with jets? Play an arcade-ish game like HAWX or get a serious flight sim.
ITT: A guy telling others what their vision of fun should be in regards to battlefield.

Also, Alan Kerz, a BF3 DEV has confirmed on twitter that the Jets will be faster than BF2 jets.

Here's some advice though.

If you want to play a flight combat simulator.

Play a flight combat simulator.

If you want to fly jets in an epic battle with player controlled infantry, ground vehicles and other airborne vehicles playing a large part in your experience.

Play Battlefield 3.

If you just want to have a rather pessimistic moan. Play Call of Duty
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Yeah.. fun. Watching machines capable of Mach 2+ wallow around at 100kph 200 feet off the ground is not my idea of fun. It crushes any sense of immersion.

The speeds and altitudes were barely adequate for WW2 aircraft, they're just not appropriate for 2014.

Want to have fun with jets? Play an arcade-ish game like HAWX or get a serious flight sim.
The maps would have to be gigantic to allow for them to move that fast, and then it would be no fun for ground troops as the maps would be too big. You want realistic, go play ARMA.
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