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Hi, Im very sorry if this is in the wrong section but im looking for some help building my first system. I hoping to build a fair gaming pc for playing games like Counterstrike: source, Amenisia dark decent, Penumbra, Left 4 dead 2, Starcraft 2. I own a games console for playing other games like Cod or battlefield. So basically im looking for some decent computer components to run these games, preferbly on higest settings but not essential. Im not looking for a new i3, i5, i7 system yet. (Money limitations) But more like a core2 quad or core2 duo. I can afford around £300 - £350. Maybe more if its worth it. Could you please give you opinion for these items and anything else you would consider...

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:::Edit::: Im currently using a dell optiplex gx620 Pentium d 3.4ghz, 2gb Ram, With a 280w psu and a radeon hd 4350 gpu. Playing mainly counterstrike: source. With the radeon 4350 cs:s runs average 70 - 100fps on lowest settings on a 800x600 resolution. Looks terrible on a 32in monitor lol. Can you reccomend a new gpu to fit in the dell. Its the mid tower so only low profile cards with low profile bracket fits. Thanks, Regards. Ryansworld
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hi, i would suggest watching these videos first if u decide to build - helped me a lot



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It's not worth trying to find certain components to fit in an old, bad case. IMO.
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Since intel stuff doesnt really drop in price (Q6600 still costs about $100) going i3,i5,i7 would probably be similarly priced. Also definitely change out the case, dell cases suck.

I suggest a case like the NZXT 210.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811146075
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811146076

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It's not worth trying to find certain components to fit in an old, bad case. IMO.
Your right. I have tried and failed. Im not a hardcore pc gamer i only play lower end games. Nothing to fancy like bf3.
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It's not worth trying to find certain components to fit in an old, bad case. IMO.
This is exactly what I explained to a friend yesterday. He was talking about upgrading an old (I'm talking 2003 old) dell desktop that was crap for its time to begin with and I dissuaded him. This is actually the preliminary, sub-$600 AR, after coupons, shipped build I sent him to get him started:

(Rebates and coupons codes don't show in the picture (as well as the hat being free) but the this build's grand total was in the $570 USD range. Also, the mobo could get cheaper with no sli capability and you could get a smaller HDD)

Edited by Infinite Jest - 8/16/11 at 10:38am
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Yup. I know someone with a stock heatsink on a i5 2500k. Obviously it's at stock clocks. Why? Because he has a 5 year old case he won't change.

dumbdumbdumbdumbdumb

Ryans, check out these NZXT Cases. Love em.

NZXT Beta Evo £35.65 Inc VAT

NZXT M59 £47.53 Inc VAT
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Upgrading your old Dell may not be such a good idea since the Optiplex series uses proprietary form form factors and not all power supplies and graphics cards may fit in there. Also, the pentium D is not a very good CPU for today's games.

This whole setup will cost about 300 pounds + VAT

HDD (you can probably reuse your old HDD if it's SATA type):

for 32.20

Motherboard: for about 74 pounds

CPU: this includes an integrated AMD HD6550 gpu for about 102.50 pounds. It will play games at a decent speed, on medium settings. I can almost guarantee that Counterstrike and Left 4 Dead 2 will play on max at around 40-60 fps. If you install an AMD graphics card with it (in the HD6000 series), the graphics card and the integrated graphics work together, so the performance is boosted

Power Supply: . 400 watts should be enough for this build. Costs about 20 pounds

Case: for 35 pounds. You cannot use your old Dell case because they use proprietary form factors in their cases.

4gb RAM: about 18 pounds. You can't reuse your Dell's ram becuase it may be DDR2 or older and it may not work with the new motherboard.


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Optional Parts if you can afford a little bit more:

Fan (optional if you want better cooling): 4.17 pounds

Graphics card AMD HD6770: Those should let you play most modern games on High at high resolution. Having this paired with the AMD A series CPU, this should equal the performance of an HD6870 (if i'm not mistaken).

DVD drives can be reused if it's SATA, but here is one for 14 pounds if you need one
Edited by ProdigyWolf - 8/16/11 at 11:11am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jagz View Post
Yup. I know someone with a stock heatsink on a i5 2500k. Obviously it's at stock clocks. Why? Because he has a 5 year old case he won't change.

dumbdumbdumbdumbdumb

Ryans, check out these NZXT Cases. Love em.

NZXT Beta Evo £35.65 Inc VAT

NZXT M59 £47.53 Inc VAT
Another great case is the NZXT Gamma. It's almost the same as the M59, but it's 10 pounds cheaper. I have it and I love it.
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Quote:
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Another great case is the NZXT Gamma. It's almost the same as the M59, but it's 10 pounds cheaper. I have it and I love it.
Absolutely. Scan and Aria don't have it in stock, but ebuyer does.
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