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Hey all.

I just got off the phone with my friend Mary who runs a busy sign shop here in town and her 5-year old Dell bit the dust. As usual, the people who need a good PC the most are using tired old machines that are barely up to the task, while enthusiasts like us are running enterprise level machines...ironic.

As a friend I offered to advise her on a more robust somewhat future proof machine and she was happy for the help.

I thought I would tap into the massive Think Tank here for some ideas about what would be good.

If her old Dell was handling the business almost any modern rig would shine, so I don't think she needs anything amazing. Just a dependable rig with robust (read redundant) storage.

It's been a while since I upgraded my own gear...my most modern rig is an X58 with an i7. So input from you guys would be a refresh on my cache of knowledge.

Thanks!
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I'm sure a simple i3 rig utilizing the intergrated graphics that sandbridge CPU's have would suit her needs. For storage a 1TB F3 will be enough.
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If a 5 year old Dell will work for her, just get her an i3 with a lot of storage drives with a dedicated RAID card. Maybe an SSD if you're feeling it, haha.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lime View Post
If a 5 year old Dell will work for her, just get her an i3 with a lot of storage drives with a dedicated RAID card. Maybe an SSD if you're feeling it, haha.
H67 has integrated RAID support.
post #5 of 13
What is her budget? I'll assume that it needs an operating system, but does it need to include any software? Can peripherals be reused from the old Dell?
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I'm thinking new mobo and CPU, RAM and PSU. The rest might be a transplant. I think mostly rig would be used in a design and regular business capacity. Operating System is not something I need to worry about...I just want to line up some hardware choices to get her back online. Her HDD crashed during a critical backup and she lost important files. So a single drive will not cut it. Onboard RAID is fine right up until the mobo craps out and then you have to get a mobo with a similar handler to get back up.

I was thinking a dedicated controller card with multiple drives just for storage or maybe some sort of fast external storage with redundancy would be cheap insurance. the OS could go on anything pretty much.

I'll look into i3 mobo and cpu packages on Newegg. If the integrated graphics is really that good that would save her a bundle right there. I'm used to integrated graphics being absolute junk and totally useless for color-correct design work.
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post #7 of 13
Recently I looked at doing a budget build for a friend, and I decided to go with an i3 2100 for $125 paired with a Gigabyte H67 for $100. Sounds like that would meet your needs too, but note that it does not allow CPU overclocking.

RAM is nearly too cheap to debate over these days, but make sure you get 1.5v or lower; it's required for Sandybridge chips and their integrated memory controller. I'd suggest something simple, such as this Corsair 4GB kit for $28.

Your best choice for a PSU would probably be the CX430 V2 at $45, but as you can see, The Egg is currently out of stock. You can either find another supplier or go with the Seasonic S12II 430B for $70. Of course, anything from The List would suit you fine. Note - Take a look at the existing case and make sure it's standard ATX form factor; some Dells use TFX or a proprietary design that could limit your options.

Currently, the favored hard drive on most of Overclock.net is the Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB, which can be had for $60 at the moment. I've got five, and they've been doing extremely well.

I don't have any experience with RAID controllers, so I'll avoid the temptation to talk out of my behind and leave other to advise you on the subject.

Last word of advice - Keep the option of dedicated graphics available. Without knowing what type of software she uses, it's hard to say if the integrated GPU on the i3 can keep up. I would start without a dedicated GPU, then swap in what was in the old computer if that doesn't work, then buy a new GPU if that doesn't work. Worst case scenario is that it would add $100 or so to the cost of the new computer, a dedicated GPU could add significantly to the longevity of the system.

Best of luck!
Edited by kremtok - 8/16/11 at 1:35pm
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post #8 of 13
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...scrollFullInfo

MSI H67MA-E35 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel H67 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard

B3 Ready, MCII, Corporate Stable Model

Is this a decent choice?
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I don't know if this is a great deal as I have been out of the loop for some time as well, but over at microcenter they have a combo deal on the following:

http://www.microcenter.com/search/se...=369124+381186

$99.99 + $64.99 - $9.99 = ~$155

Unless I'm reading their deal wrong, add it's actually $50 off instead of $10...

http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/...ea#/98ab8cea/4
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post #10 of 13
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The closest Microcenter is 250 miles away. It would cost me about $150 to drive there and back in my gas guzzling pickup
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