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My boss asked me to build him a computer for work. He mainly just uses it for e-mail, web surfing, youtube, etc. I was originally going to put an SSD in, but I know a lot of them are notorious for failure, and as such SSD isn't an option.

What I want to know is how big of a difference in windows/program load time will there be going from 7200RPM to 10000RPM (specifically the Spinpoint F3 and W.D. Velociprator)? Is it worth spending almost 5x the price/gb for the 10,000RPM?

I know this has probably been asked a bunch of times, but I'm in a reallll hurry and any quick info/suggestion would be great!

Thanks in advance!
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I think you'll find as HDD's are mechanical and SSD's are not, SSD's are much less prone to failure. Especially just for casual use, the boost would be enormous and not worth sacrificing over opinion. Especially considering your boss is your client, you have to throw your opinion out of the window and just give him the best.

So yeah, you may want to reconsider.

Otherwise, I've got both (2x Spinpoint F3 1TB, 1x 150GB Velociraptor). They do about the same but the raptors have slightly better access times.

Hope that helps.
Edited by Reflux - 8/16/11 at 2:28pm
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I'm fairly certain most SSDs aren't more prone to failure than HDDs.
Edited by Infinite Jest - 8/16/11 at 2:32pm
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Velociraptors aint worth the $$ nowadays when HDD's like the samsung and WD black are just as good or even better for sequential read/writes. Sure the access times are faster but for a hefty price, I would recommend an SSD, the intel range is pretty much flawless and has shown to be the most reliable amongst SSD's.

Get a 40gb or so ssd and get a Samsung F3 for storage = win


Here are some bench's of the velociraptors in comparison to the Samsung F3:
http://www.overclock.net/5001666-post76.html

Here are my Samung F3s in raid 0:
http://www.overclock.net/hard-drives...-raid-0-a.html

No SS access time is 13.4, with a 150gb SS access time is 8.9.
Edited by munaim1 - 8/16/11 at 2:33pm
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Hmm okay. I just constantly read about SSD's that are failing (but then again I guess those are the people who you see posting, as people who have success probably don't rave on about it). Any recommendations for a reliable (not necessarily fastest) 64-96GB SSD?
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I'm fairly certain most SSDs aren't more prone to failure then HDDs.
Drop a HDD from 3ft. Drop an SSD from 3ft. See which one still works properly...
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Hmm okay. I just constantly read about SSD's that are failing (but then again I guess those are the people who you see posting, as people who have success probably don't rave on about it). Any recommendations for a reliable (not necessarily fastest) 64-96GB SSD?
Mushkin Callisto, OCZ Vertex or anything Intel.

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There's no point in putting a ssd into a system for someone to use email with. A single F3 should suffice.

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Drop a HDD from 3ft. Drop an SSD from 3ft. See which one still works properly...
You go first.

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There's no point in putting a ssd into a system for someone to use email with. A single F3 should suffice.
One could argue, as he's only doing that he won't need any storage space.

So it'd actually be a more efficient use of the budget. Especially as stated in the OP, he is looking for windows load speed.
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I think your boss should be fine with a HDD for what you listed his uses as. I'd also go with the F3 in his system, cheaper and more storage and not much of a pseed difference imo.

As for SSD reliability, just don't get a SF-2281 controlled drive. They have pretty bad reliability, most others are pretty reliable.
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