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post #11 of 20
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Originally Posted by tcobb51;14609973 
Well you don't really need the Z68 Mobo platform.

Here's a couple CPU + Mobo combos that would give you the capability to overclock if you ever wanted to throw an aftermarket cooler. I think you can make them fit your price range. The 6870 is probably a better value than the GTX560 as well. My ram suggestion is simply an alternative to what you've listed. Your PSU is a good choice for the budget, as is the HDD.

CPU + Mobo combo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.701072 - $309
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.660241 - $331
GPU:
ASUS Radeon HD6870: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121418 - $189

RAM:
G.Skill 2x2GB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231427 - $34

Thank you everyone. I will wait for more responses and see what other think about this and their opinions.

I thought gtx 560 is better than 6870 that is why I went with 560 superclocked. Originally I had gtx 460 superclocked but decided to bump it up to 560 superclocked since it was 10 dollars extra.

By the way. With the spec I gave it came out to be 614 dollars including the discounts.
Edited by Alphapanda - 8/16/11 at 9:27pm
post #12 of 20
If you get the 2400, you might also just pickup an H67 motherboard since you won't be OCing.... just my 2 cents..
post #13 of 20
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Then what do you all think with this board, 10 dollars more.

MSI P67A-C43 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130571

replacing
BIOSTAR TZ68A+ LGA 1155 Intel Z68
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138319

Then with updated spec (623 dollars)

CPU: (i5-2400)http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115074
Mobo: MSI P67A-C43 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130571
Ram: (GSKILL 4gb - 2x2gb ddr3 1600 - 1.5v) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231427
Video Card: (Asus 560 gtx) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121446
HDD: (500gb 7200rpm Sata 6) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148767
PSU: (Antec NEO ECO 520W) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371030

Or here's another build same as above but suggested from another site, I should go with a better board and go with i3 for now. Wait for i5-2500k price to drop in a year or two and snatch it then I can overclock it.

mobo: (ASUS P8Z68-V LE LGA 1155 Intel Z68) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131773
CPU: (i3-2100) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115078
Ram, gfx card, psu, etc.. same as before which came to 590 dollars

His post as follow
Quote:
When you consider a build don't build around a GPU or CPU, I would always start on a Chassis, PSU then Motherboard. Spend a decent amount on a PSU and Motherboard and you have far more future proofing.

1] Get a P8P67 Pro (REV 3.1) or Z68 V/V-Pro which is high quality at good cost.
2] Drop to a I3 2100 if necessary and upgrade only the CPU in 2 years or so.

As I say, never try and future proof a GPU as they become redundant after 2-3 years while a CPU can last a long time, particularly the 2500k. A i3 with a GTX 560 and good RAM will in 95% of games today give you pretty similar gaming FPS, I know that people look at the i3 as "only being a dual core" but it is effectively a dual core with near on high end quad core performance. Synthetic benchmarks will score the quads well above the dual cores, but in real life scenarios the i3 2100 is so close that the $100 upfront saved can be used on getting the core of a machine build, then you can buy a 2500k next year some time at a knock off too likely.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/...udget#t2343162
Edited by Alphapanda - 8/17/11 at 1:04am
post #14 of 20
I was using this to compare the graphics cards: http://www.overclock.net/graphics-ca...time-last.html

It's a thread here on the forum that shows the HD6870 slightly outperforms the GTX560, and it is also being priced slightly lower so I think that might be a good change unless you prefer nVidia.

I agree with the sentiment to either get an i5-2500k or get an i3-2100. However, I don't think the i5-2500k will come down much in price. Intel processors usually stay pretty firm in price with only slight decreases over time. They usually fit a firm "slot" and stay there until discontinued. I think it'd be great for you to get an i5-2500k right now and then you could overclock it later by purchasing a $30 CPU Cooler and you'd get a lot of bang for your buck. However, the set-up I just worked up puts you slightly over budget with an i5-2500k and a decent motherboard; so it's ultimately up to whether you want to spend a little more money or not. But there is no point in paying for a i5-2400 and not spending another $30 for 2500k, get the i3-2100 or the i5-2500k.

Here's a build I worked up that is over budget but after rebates gets down to $620'ish. It's a pretty nice build for the price. You could get it down into your budget if you went with an open box GPU (see the online deals section for more info. on how to find these), or eVGA b-stock.

edit: I also just noticed that the motherboard you selected for the i3-2100 version of your build is a lower end model of the P8Z68V platform, and thus is pretty limited. So you're really not gaining anything "future proof" by going with those selections. I'd get at least a P8P67 Pro or P8Z68-V Pro if you went the route aimed at future upgrades.

Edited by tcobb51 - 8/17/11 at 5:24am
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You have an unused copy of windows lying around?
Why would he need unused copy of windows
You have right to transfer your license to new pc if you uninstall windows on old machine
In worst case scenario,he would need to activate it over the phone

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Originally Posted by Airolden View Post

I still don't understand why anyone would not go for a 2500k over the other i5 versions. It isn't worth an extra $20 for close to 50% higher clocks?

My
Difference between i5 2400 and i5 2500k is $50, not $20
Edited by digiadventures - 8/17/11 at 9:02am
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Originally Posted by digiadventures View Post
Why would he need unused copy of windows
You have right to transfer your license to new pc if you uninstall windows on old machine
In worst case scenario,he would need to activate it over the phone



Difference between i5 2400 and i5 2500k is $50, not $20
That is true if you have a retail copy, but is not if you only have an oem copy. It's a EULA issue. Phone activation of an oem copy on a new motherboard doesn't make it legitimate or acceptable on ocn.

I would avoid the whole windows licensing topic in general, as it will only seem to head in the wrong direction and derail the thread.
    
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post #17 of 20
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I was using this to compare the graphics cards: http://www.overclock.net/graphics-ca...time-last.html

It's a thread here on the forum that shows the HD6870 slightly outperforms the GTX560, and it is also being priced slightly lower so I think that might be a good change unless you prefer nVidia.

I agree with the sentiment to either get an i5-2500k or get an i3-2100. However, I don't think the i5-2500k will come down much in price. Intel processors usually stay pretty firm in price with only slight decreases over time. They usually fit a firm "slot" and stay there until discontinued. I think it'd be great for you to get an i5-2500k right now and then you could overclock it later by purchasing a $30 CPU Cooler and you'd get a lot of bang for your buck. However, the set-up I just worked up puts you slightly over budget with an i5-2500k and a decent motherboard; so it's ultimately up to whether you want to spend a little more money or not. But there is no point in paying for a i5-2400 and not spending another $30 for 2500k, get the i3-2100 or the i5-2500k.

Here's a build I worked up that is over budget but after rebates gets down to $620'ish. It's a pretty nice build for the price. You could get it down into your budget if you went with an open box GPU (see the online deals section for more info. on how to find these), or eVGA b-stock.
I do prefer nvidia over amd but there's no rush, my goal is to get it end of this month so there's time

Here's another potential build:
Mobo + CPU:
i5-2500K + MSI P67A-G43 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.660242
GFX + PSU:
XFX 6870HD + CORSAIR Builder Series CX600 V2 600W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.718310
RAM: (GSKILL 4gb - 2x2gb ddr3 1600 - 1.5v)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231427
HDD: (500gb 7200rpm Sata 6)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148767

All come to 680 dollars but 620 with MIR and discounts


Or another one here w/ 654 dollars.

$350
Mobo: (GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128512
CPU: (i5-2400) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115074

Mobo + CPU: ($330)
i5-2500K + MSI P67A-G43 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.660242
RAM: (GSKILL 4gb - 2x2gb ddr3 1600 - 1.5v)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231427
HDD: (500gb 7200rpm Sata 6) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148767
Video Card option 1: (Asus 560 gtx) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121446
Video Card option 2: (AMD 6870) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150506
PSU: (Antec NEO ECO 520W) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371030
Edited by Alphapanda - 8/17/11 at 11:08am
post #18 of 20
My version of your budget:

CPU/mobo combo: i3-2100T/GIGABYTE GA-Z68MA-D2H-B3 $243
GPU: XFX HD-687A-ZNBC $160 after $20 mir (comes with Deus-ex)
RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 $38
PSU: RG630 $60
HDD: Seagate Barracuda ST500DM002 500GB $44

$545 shipped.
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post #19 of 20
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Originally Posted by Alphapanda View Post
I do prefer nvidia over amd but there's no rush, my goal is to get it end of this month so there's time

Here's another potential build:
Mobo + CPU:
i5-2500K + MSI P67A-G43 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.660242
GFX + PSU:
XFX 6870HD + CORSAIR Builder Series CX600 V2 600W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.718310
RAM: (GSKILL 4gb - 2x2gb ddr3 1600 - 1.5v)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231427
HDD: (500gb 7200rpm Sata 6)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148767

All come to 680 dollars but 620 with MIR and discounts
I managed to get a hold of this system for 640 dollars w/ discounts and promotional code. With MIR I snatched this w/ 580 dollars.

Going to give AMD a shot

Thank you for helping me. Much appreciated. Waiting for my new parts to come in few days and see how it'll go.
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Originally Posted by Badwrench View Post
My version of your budget:

CPU/mobo combo: i3-2100T/GIGABYTE GA-Z68MA-D2H-B3 $243
GPU: XFX HD-687A-ZNBC $160 after $20 mir (comes with Deus-ex)
RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 $38
PSU: RG630 $60
HDD: Seagate Barracuda ST500DM002 500GB $44

$545 shipped.
Why the 2100T? That's a low-power, more expensive version of the 2100. He'd be better with a 2105/2120.
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