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How is he "derailing" his own topic? Anyway, OP, it can also read (I'm not sure that any writers are made that can't read, but don't quote me). Review for it here. Also, make sure when you get it it is exactly what you bought; a few reviewers on amazon said they got a lower quality, non-asus drive; just be wary when it arrives. As for the 3D, that review I linked states it has both the capability and the software for 3D output.
Thanks alot for this information. I couldn't find anything on Google and trust me, I tried finding information for a good 2 hours. Before I ask any further questions I just want to say that I'm very new to this forum and am not quite sure where to post all of these questions. I was hoping to kind of ask them all within this thread so I'm not starting a bunch of different threads seeking help with these issues. I wasn't sure if that was the correct way to ask and just want to say that I'm sorry if it's not and that if I should be posting them elsewhere, please let me know which forum I should be asking them in.

I'd like to ask two questions. The first is about cooling but before I ask, I just want to put it out there that I have no plans to overclock any time soon since this is all very new to me but when I do decide to, I'd definitely use a liquid cooling system rather than fans. I've done some reading on liquid cooling and have read it's easy to screw up something and ruin your system if you don't know what you're doing. Since I've never dealt with liquid cooling before, I decided to use fans for cooling instead. However, I'm still not entirely sure that a fan system alone is "good enough" to keep a PC of my specifications at the temperature it should be at. This may just be an anxiety I'm feeling because this is my first serious gaming PC and have put alot of money into it but I'd like some reassurance on it before I begin using it.

With that said, I'd like to specify the measures I'm going to be taking to keep my PC as cool as possible and get your opinions on whether or not it's good enough or whether I'm going to need a liquid cooling system. I'm going to be placing my rig in my upstairs bedroom, which is 10ft x 12ft. I plan to keep it very well dusted and maintained. I'll have 3 medium size standing fans along with my ceiling fan running on high whenever I'm on my PC as well as central air through two air vents throughout the rest of the summer. When the winter time comes, I'd just be losing the central air but keeping the rest of the room fans running on high. My question is, with the fans which run within my case (140mm rear fan, a 200mm top fan, a 200mm side fan, and the 230mm front LED fan) along with the Noctua's 120mm and 140mm CPU fans and heatsink, will my PC be cool enough or should I be using a liquid cooling system? Although the idea of setting one up for the first time scares me, if it's truly necessary, I'll do it. However, if I can avoid it, I'd like to do so just because I've never dealt with setting one up before.

My second question is about maintaining a dust free environment in and around my PC. I plan to dust my room as well as my PC, inside and out, whenever necessary. However, I'm not sure just how often I should be doing so. I'm guessing with all the fans going within it that dust will be collecting quite often. I'd like to know just how often I should be cleaning within it. I'm sorry to admit that I've owned a Dell for the last 2 years (had it built before I knew anything about PCs) and have kept up dusting it on the outside and around it from week to week but have never dusted the inside. Dusting inside the case will be very new to me and I want to keep my PC in top condition. I've bought a can of compressed air and was wondering just how often I should be dusting inside. Also, should I be doing any wiping within the case or leaving all of the dusting to the compressed air? Will owning a liquid cooling system alleviate the amount of dust that'll be collecting within my case? From what I understand, the Cooler Master HAF X is built for airflow so I'm guessing it'll collect dust regardless of whether or not I have a liquid cooling system but would having one rather than fans eliminate dust buildup?

Thanks in advance for any replies I receive. I'm very happy to be getting feedback from you guys with this. It's really helped me out alot. I've made changes to my build based on the feedback I've gotten from you.
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O_O Well...I think with that set up you shouldn't reach over 40C on idle and not over 70C on prime95. For the dust free part, it depends on your floor (mostly), if you have carpet (like i did), you'll notice the dust. If you have hardwood (like me ), you won't notice the dust build up (it'll be really slow buildup of dust). To prove this, I had a carpet floor and after 2 years with my new computer, it was too dusty that it looked like dust hell. Now that i changed to hardwood, its been 3 years and only the CPU fan and the GPU fan have accumulated about...no dust! For the liquid cooling and dust, probably no difference at all, except the CPU might be a bit cooler. BTW, calm down man, you sound like you're high...and you haven't posted in the wrong forum section.
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O_O Well...I think with that set up you shouldn't reach over 40C on idle and not over 70C on prime95. For the dust free part, it depends on your floor (mostly), if you have carpet (like i did), you'll notice the dust. If you have hardwood (like me ), you won't notice the dust build up (it'll be really slow buildup of dust). To prove this, I had a carpet floor and after 2 years with my new computer, it was too dusty that it looked like dust hell. Now that i changed to hardwood, its been 3 years and only the CPU fan and the GPU fan have accumulated about...no dust! For the liquid cooling and dust, probably no difference at all, except the CPU might be a bit cooler. BTW, calm down man, you sound like you're high...and you haven't posted in the wrong forum section.
My bedroom has a hardwood floor by the way. The room's going to stay bare (only my bed and the desk the PC will be sitting on) so dust will stay at a minimum. I've just bought a new desk for it which has a flat 4ft x 6ft top. I plan to place the case on top with plenty of space around it for cooling, so it won't be anywhere near the floor. Do you think the fan system I'll have for it will be enough or are their any other high end cooling fans I could add within the case for more cooling?
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I think its plenty but if you think you need more, by all means get some more. I highly reccommend cOoler masters fans. Just make sure they're compatible with the case.
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Don't worry, your case will have adequate cooling stock (hell even a stock cpu cooler) if you plan on doing little to no overclocking. Liquid is only for extreme overclockers; I can say that with confidence. I myself own a HAF 922 on a hardwood floor with a couple of extra cheapy yate loon fans and have no issues. Stock fans, for your purposes, will be fine. My house accumulates dust fairly quickly (I vacuum my room once a week and will probably be cleaning out my pc every 1-2 months), so I picked myself up a set of magnetic DEMCIfilters than simply are attracted to the outside of your case and can removed ans cleaned very easily. Here is a set for the HAF X if you are interested. Again, don't worry about liquid cooling if you don't plan on doing any major overclocking any time soon. Maybe 6 months down the road after you've had more experience and have the itch, then research and build a loop or two. Your cooling is more than adequate, your pc will be less dusty than you expect (especially with those filters ), and you will enjoy every minute of this!

EDIT; Btw, you can post whatever the hell you want in this thread.
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Consider the HX 850 psu as it is modular. Who wants to have un-used cables cluttering up their case!
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Mobo is a little expensive. You could use the Asus p6z68 v-pro and then you would have access to side my side gpu and cpu graphics plus SSD caching ^.^ also it's only 200ish dollars.
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Imo , get gtx 580,s with prices dropping you could get two 580,s for what your going to spend on those 570,s. Also do you really need a blue ray player? I paid the extra money,when i built my sig rig, i have not used it once.
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Don't worry, your case will have adequate cooling stock (hell even a stock cpu cooler) if you plan on doing little to no overclocking. Liquid is only for extreme overclockers; I can say that with confidence. I myself own a HAF 922 on a hardwood floor with a couple of extra cheapy yate loon fans and have no issues. Stock fans, for your purposes, will be fine. My house accumulates dust fairly quickly (I vacuum my room once a week and will probably be cleaning out my pc every 1-2 months), so I picked myself up a set of magnetic DEMCIfilters than simply are attracted to the outside of your case and can removed ans cleaned very easily. Here is a set for the HAF X if you are interested. Again, don't worry about liquid cooling if you don't plan on doing any major overclocking any time soon. Maybe 6 months down the road after you've had more experience and have the itch, then research and build a loop or two. Your cooling is more than adequate, your pc will be less dusty than you expect (especially with those filters ), and you will enjoy every minute of this!

EDIT; Btw, you can post whatever the hell you want in this thread.
Thanks alot for the link to those filters. Wow, I never knew about air filters for PCs. I'm definitely picking those up.
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By the way, will my Noctua NH-D14 fit over my CPU without me having to remove the stock CPU fan that comes already within the Cooler Master HAF X? I'd like to have all the stock fans along with the Noctua, if possible.
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