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post #1 of 9
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Ok, so since Friday, August 12th, my computer has been acting strange from time to time. It's super frustrating, and I honestly have no idea what the cause is or where the problem lies (hardware/software).

There was no problem before the 12th, the only thing I installed was the game, Brink, through Steam during the free weekend August 5th. On Monday, August 8th, I left for Cozumel, Mexico to scuba dive for the week and returned on Friday, the 12th. My computer was in sleep mode the entire time. The game, Brink, was left opened but minimized while my computer was in sleep mode. Since I awakened the computer, at random times, a strange issue occurs:

My mouse cursor will not behave as it should. It's a weird problem to try and explain but I will try. At random times, my mouse will not click on the seemingly 'active' window (whatever program is in the foreground). It will just decide which window is active, and not move off of that one. Say I have 3 windows open - Firefox, Steam Main Window, and a folder. Now, Firefox is in the foreground. When this issue occurs, however, the folder (which was bottom of the 3) will now all of a sudden be the active folder, but it will still remain behind the other two.

A lot of times during this problem, I can't click on the Start Menu or Taskbar at the bottom of the screen, and can't click any of the toolbar buttons in the window itself, only interact with whatever is in the window (if in a folder, open folders; if in Firefox, browse the web, etc.). The only way I've been able to get out of this is to Ctrl+Alt+Del and start the Task Manager. When I C+A+D, though, I have to click on the screen that comes up before I can actually select 'Task Manager.' Once I bring the task manager up, everything goes back to normal. If the problem comes up while I have the task manager up, I have to Alt+Tab to select it, then Alt+F4 to close it, and then Ctrl+Alt+Del to re-open it.

I've run a full scan using Malwarebytes Anti-Malware (up-to-date) and Microsoft Security Essentials (up-to-date) and neither has found anything. I've defragmented my hard drive, and restarted multiple times. I've also installed (since the problem started happening) the latest Windows Updates.


Does anyone have any idea what the heck is happening? It's incredibly frustrating beyond belief and has actually happened once or twice while playing a game (clicking causes the game to minimize since it is no longer the active window), but it's rare and is primarily while not playing a game.
post #2 of 9
Your using win 7.
Try tweaking the settings like disable active desktop and the mouse settings
There is hundreds of apps to do it with like TweakUI, Xsetup pro etc
post #3 of 9
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Originally Posted by Spooony View Post
Your using win 7.
Try tweaking the settings like disable active desktop and the mouse settings
There is hundreds of apps to do it with like TweakUI, Xsetup pro etc
I'm not even done reading his post, but all I have to say is that this is not the solution.

Edit: TweakUI is for XP, not Windows Vista or 7.
Edited by TwoCables - 8/16/11 at 10:34pm
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Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
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Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
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post #4 of 9
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Originally Posted by Maian View Post
Ok, so since Friday, August 12th, my computer has been acting strange from time to time. It's super frustrating, and I honestly have no idea what the cause is or where the problem lies (hardware/software).

There was no problem before the 12th, the only thing I installed was the game, Brink, through Steam during the free weekend August 5th. On Monday, August 8th, I left for Cozumel, Mexico to scuba dive for the week and returned on Friday, the 12th. My computer was in sleep mode the entire time. The game, Brink, was left opened but minimized while my computer was in sleep mode. Since I awakened the computer, at random times, a strange issue occurs:

My mouse cursor will not behave as it should. It's a weird problem to try and explain but I will try. At random times, my mouse will not click on the seemingly 'active' window (whatever program is in the foreground). It will just decide which window is active, and not move off of that one. Say I have 3 windows open - Firefox, Steam Main Window, and a folder. Now, Firefox is in the foreground. When this issue occurs, however, the folder (which was bottom of the 3) will now all of a sudden be the active folder, but it will still remain behind the other two.

A lot of times during this problem, I can't click on the Start Menu or Taskbar at the bottom of the screen, and can't click any of the toolbar buttons in the window itself, only interact with whatever is in the window (if in a folder, open folders; if in Firefox, browse the web, etc.). The only way I've been able to get out of this is to Ctrl+Alt+Del and start the Task Manager. When I C+A+D, though, I have to click on the screen that comes up before I can actually select 'Task Manager.' Once I bring the task manager up, everything goes back to normal. If the problem comes up while I have the task manager up, I have to Alt+Tab to select it, then Alt+F4 to close it, and then Ctrl+Alt+Del to re-open it.

I've run a full scan using Malwarebytes Anti-Malware (up-to-date) and Microsoft Security Essentials (up-to-date) and neither has found anything. I've defragmented my hard drive, and restarted multiple times. I've also installed (since the problem started happening) the latest Windows Updates.


Does anyone have any idea what the heck is happening? It's incredibly frustrating beyond belief and has actually happened once or twice while playing a game (clicking causes the game to minimize since it is no longer the active window), but it's rare and is primarily while not playing a game.
First, I want to start off by saying that you should have just turned the computer off before leaving for Mexico. By that, I mean you should have just selected Shut Down. No system should ever be left in sleep mode for 1 week. Plus, you left Brink open (which is something else that confuses me).

Anyway, I don't know what I would do if this happened to me. However, my first recommendation is to shut down, unplug the PSU, and then press the power button on your computer case a few times to discharge the capacitors in your system. After that, plug the PSU back in, turn the system on and then see if it's any better.

If it isn't, then my next course of action would be to reset the CMOS.

If that doesn't work, then I would probably just get depressed and format and start over.

If that didn't fix it, then I don't know what I'd do.
Edited by TwoCables - 8/16/11 at 10:35pm
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage) ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850) GTX 780 ASUS DirectCU II (1228 / 6300, 1.180V) G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
Basic, but premium round X-Fi Titanium HD Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 (with 16 AWG Monster Cable... 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage) ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850) GTX 780 ASUS DirectCU II (1228 / 6300, 1.180V) G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
Basic, but premium round X-Fi Titanium HD Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 (with 16 AWG Monster Cable... 
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post #5 of 9
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Well, I left Brink open because I was abusing the free weekend with it - I didn't close the game after the free weekend ended and so I was still able to play it

I'll try the PSU thing and see if it works... But yea, like you, I have no idea because I've never seen this problem before.
post #6 of 9
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Originally Posted by Maian View Post
Well, I left Brink open because I was abusing the free weekend with it - I didn't close the game after the free weekend ended and so I was still able to play it
Oh. That's extremely different. Nevermind then.


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Originally Posted by Maian View Post
I'll try the PSU thing and see if it works... But yea, like you, I have no idea because I've never seen this problem before.
I'm looking forward to the results of everything I recommended.
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Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
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It's a computer!
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage) ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850) GTX 780 ASUS DirectCU II (1228 / 6300, 1.180V) G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
Basic, but premium round X-Fi Titanium HD Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 (with 16 AWG Monster Cable... 
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post #7 of 9
Thread Starter 
Ok, well, the problem happened after shutting off the PSU and hitting the power button. Although this time was a little different... I'm thinking that my mouse may actually be the problem (I'm not sure how, but I think it is). Problem is, I don't really have another mouse with me to test as I believe my Razer is in Lubbock. I must confess that I have beaten up my current mouse a little - was a little to 'forceful' and messed up the Mouse3 button. Scroll Wheel still works fine, and the Left- and Right-Scroll buttons on the wheel work, but push the wheel down doesn't do anything.

The only thing that confuses me is why opening the task manager makes the problem go away -.-

But the reason I think my mouse is at fault is because the Mouse3 button is shorted/stuck to where when I pick my mouse up on my pad, and put it back down, it causes the button to activate sometimes. I was browsing the B.net forums just now and when picking up my mouse and putting it back down, the Mouse3 button triggered (you know how you hold it and move the mouse up or down to scroll the page, did that), and then after I clicked to get off that action, I couldn't click links and stuff. Tapping the mouse on my mouse pad again fixed it without having to open the Task Manager.
Edited by Maian - 8/17/11 at 12:29pm
post #8 of 9
Thread Starter 
So I bought a Logitech G500 while I was at Best Buy today (girlfriend went into Michaels, which is right next door), and came home, plugged it in, and so far since then, I have had zero problems. From what I can tell, the mouse was somehow at fault for my issue... and I'm not entirely sure why.
post #9 of 9
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Originally Posted by Maian View Post
So I bought a Logitech G500 while I was at Best Buy today (girlfriend went into Michaels, which is right next door), and came home, plugged it in, and so far since then, I have had zero problems. From what I can tell, the mouse was somehow at fault for my issue... and I'm not entirely sure why.
Oh nice. I admit that I had a feeling you were going to do this, so that's why I waited.
It's a computer!
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage) ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850) GTX 780 ASUS DirectCU II (1228 / 6300, 1.180V) G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
Basic, but premium round X-Fi Titanium HD Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 (with 16 AWG Monster Cable... 
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It's a computer!
(19 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage) ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850) GTX 780 ASUS DirectCU II (1228 / 6300, 1.180V) G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
Basic, but premium round X-Fi Titanium HD Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 (with 16 AWG Monster Cable... 
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