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I set up my loop on Saturday and I've been persistently plagued by this vortex of air. It was much larger initially and decreased to its current size in about 6-12 hours. The loop has been running and leak-free for >36 hours now but this air vortex is driving me mad.

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For reference, my loop order is bayres/35x -> RS240 on top -> CPU bock -> RX120 on back -> GFX block -> RX240 on bottom -> bayres/35x

Initially, the 35x would suck it out at full speed and draw the air bubbles in again. This stopped happening yesterday.

I highly doubt it's drawing air in, as the water level has gone neither up nor down. I have had the tower every which way except front facing the ceiling and upside-down due to cabling restrictions.

The loop is distilled, silver coil, PT nuke, glycerin, and one drop of Dawm dish soap.

Any advice for getting this thing outta here? Thanks.
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post #2 of 18
That's an air bubble. Tilt the case back and forth until it works itself out.
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Bay res is always harder to bleed than tube res, try shaking the radiator back and forth but it will clear out eventually.

Btw you might want to take pics with a flash or bright light, the pics you posted are blurry and quite dark i dont see any bubbles honestly.....
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post #4 of 18
slow the pump down.
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I think it looks cool! Why the dish soap?
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my 580 had that it PISSED ME OFF LIKE FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Best cure for me was to run pump at max and then turn it to low and the vortex thing will merge into a bubble and then you will be able to bleed it out.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Caleal View Post
slow the pump down.
When I do this the bubble just pops back up into the gfx block and there's about an 8C delta between the two cores.

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Originally Posted by theseekeroffun View Post
I think it looks cool! Why the dish soap?
It does look cool, and it reminds me that the pump is still alive but it hurts my temperatures. If I don't get the temps I want then dropping 5-600 on a water loop is maddening. The dish soap is a surfectant that lessens the surface tension of the water, letting it come into 'closer' contact with the blocks and itself which drops temps a little and helps with bleeding.

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Originally Posted by andrewmchugh View Post
my 580 had that it PISSED ME OFF LIKE FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Best cure for me was to run pump at max and then turn it to low and the vortex thing will merge into a bubble and then you will be able to bleed it out.
What direction did your bubble have to travel? This has to go straight down (or nearly) which makes it a bit hard. Also, it;s stopped vortexing at idle and medium temps, but once I play a game like BC2 maxed-out for an hour or two the vortex comes back. Once the card cools back down it goes away again. I don't think it's vaporizing the water because the card never gets above 53C, even OCed heavily. I even used my e-cigarette to do a home-made smoke-test and it didn't seem to show any air being drawn in.
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slow the pump down.
What he said. Run decrease the PWM signal till the vortex goes away, either rock the case a little or just let it run till the air makes it into the reservoir, and top it off. It may take awhile but it will travel to the res, eventually.
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When I do this the bubble just pops back up into the gfx block and there's about an 8C delta between the two cores.


It does look cool, and it reminds me that the pump is still alive but it hurts my temperatures. If I don't get the temps I want then dropping 5-600 on a water loop is maddening. The dish soap is a surfectant that lessens the surface tension of the water, letting it come into 'closer' contact with the blocks and itself which drops temps a little and helps with bleeding.



What direction did your bubble have to travel? This has to go straight down (or nearly) which makes it a bit hard. Also, it;s stopped vortexing at idle and medium temps, but once I play a game like BC2 maxed-out for an hour or two the vortex comes back. Once the card cools back down it goes away again. I don't think it's vaporizing the water because the card never gets above 53C, even OCed heavily. I even used my e-cigarette to do a home-made smoke-test and it didn't seem to show any air being drawn in.
They go out my gpu and down, so if i slow the pump right down they get pulled to the pump eventally and then they float up the res. before the pump pulls them in, sometimes it pulls the air and i have to bleed it.

I found on full pump speed the vortex hangs there and doesn't really move down the tube that much.


Edited by andrewmchugh - 8/17/11 at 6:14pm
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I had that going on but it would literally be through every tube in my entire loop when I had my pumps running at full speed.
Turning my pumps speed to minimum for a while allowed the small bubbles to form one big bubble.
Once the big bubble formed, I turned my pumps to max and it would force most of it on through.
It took a few times, but it cleared up.
I have 2x MCP35x pumps in series though.
Edited by Caleal - 8/17/11 at 9:00pm
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