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here is the thing guys. i'm installing cat 6 between the walls of my new house. i'm planning to have 4 cat 6 lines, 3 upstair bedroom, and one for the study room on the first floor.

so now i have 4 individual cat 6 lines going probably to either the attic or the basement, where i'm planning to have a gigabyte switch plus my router and modem.

now i have found individual data link wall jack from home depot, but no wall jack for the attic where 4 individual cat6 is going to be going. is there a small outlet or a wall jack control panel of some sort you guys know of?
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Like this?

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Intellinet-CAT6-Wallmount-Patch-Panel/dp/B000BSJJ1M"]Wall Mount Patch Panel[/ame]

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Cheaper Price

Or this

Double slot panel plug


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Or for the DIYer

One of these

and Six of these
Edited by cook - 8/17/11 at 9:38am
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depending on how many plugs, you can get a standard receptacle with up to six plugs, and you can use low voltage boxes.

A recent job of mine, the client moved their office into a home, and we had to drop 9 lines, so we put the duals and quads wherever needed, and in the room with the server, simply used a low voltage box, with no plate.

My advice also, is to run more lines then you need. LAN printer? future nas? htpc? nows the times to run those wires if your going to be doing it anyways.

EDIT: Cooks is nice, never seen that before, almost looks rack mount but not. If you have access to a stud itd work great biggrin.gif

EDIT2: Even if you dont hook up the extra lines to the keystone plates, just drop em and make sure they are accessible biggrin.gif
Edited by Greensystemsgo - 8/17/11 at 9:51am
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Originally Posted by kckyle;14615454 
here is the thing guys. i'm installing cat 6 between the walls of my new house. i'm planning to have 4 cat 6 lines, 3 upstair bedroom, and one for the study room on the first floor.

so now i have 4 individual cat 6 lines going probably to either the attic or the basement, where i'm planning to have a gigabyte switch plus my router and modem.

now i have found individual data link wall jack from home depot, but no wall jack for the attic where 4 individual cat6 is going to be going. is there a small outlet or a wall jack control panel of some sort you guys know of?

I think you're talking about keystone wall plates?

Here's the wallplates: http://www.monoprice.com/products/search.asp?keyword=Keystone+Wall+Plate&x=0&y=0

And here's the keystone jacks for ethernet: http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=105&cp_id=10513&cs_id=1051303

Pick how many holes you need, than order that number of keystone jacks in the color of your preference.

Also, do run more lines than you think you need. A line might go bad, or you might drop additional printers/NASes. While you're in your walls, better to get it out of the way.
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+1 to running more than you need

I didn't - and I regret it (didn't stop me from making the changes but it could have been alot easier).
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Did you get your cables yet? You might want to spring extra for CAT 6a. This will ensure full bandwidth of 10GbE in the future. smile.gif

Also, who will be installing the cabling? Are they doing it to code (i.e. 1ft+ away from power lines and perpedicular crossings)
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thanks for all the help so far. i already purchased the cat 6 from home depot, raiser cable i believe? and they are in the process of installing it. i believe my contractor is doing the lines. as for the code. the electric wiring are in a metallic pipe, not sure if that is good enough but i guess i'll tell the guy to install the cable and run it though separate lines.

and excellent idea about running additional lines. i'll make sure that definitely happens.

here is some pics of the work in progress. cheers everyone!

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Originally Posted by DuckieHo;14615718 
Did you get your cables yet? You might want to spring extra for CAT 6a. This will ensure full bandwidth of 10GbE in the future. smile.gif

Also, who will be installing the cabling? Are they doing it to code (i.e. 1ft+ away from power lines and perpedicular crossings)

holy crap the cheapest bulk i can find are over 400 bucks. i brought my cat6 riser cable bulk at home depot for 80 lol. i checked monoprice and they don't even offer cat6a lol.

edit: nvm found them not in bulk but individual cables. are these right?

http://www.monoprice.com/products/search.asp?keyword=cat6a&x=0&y=0


and also, what is the difference between Plenum vs. Riser?
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Plenum cable is used in areas where heating or ac is not ducted in ceilings usually.


Heres a link that explains it more
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plenum_cable
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Run two cat5e and two RG6 to any location where you'll have, computer, TV, telephone or home theater/stereo. Have them all homerun to the basement where you'll have a structured wiring panel. Place it in a location close to where the service for phone/cable enters you're house or no closer than 4-6' from your electrical panel and make sure you have 120 service at that location. Also make sure to run speaker cable and rough it in for future expansion. In a home theater room, home run all speaker cables to AVR location. Also run four speaker cables from AVR location to the structured wiring panel. Then homerun to structured wiring panel speaker cables for say, bedrooms and family rooms outside deck etc.

Also make sure you don't run the cable parallel to electrical and if you do, and you'll have to in some locations, distance it ten inches from the Romex/NM/NMD and when you cross it do it at 90 degrees. Cat6 is a waste of effort and a pain in the ass to work with. Same goes for Quad Coax. Purchase Belden cable as it's the best stuff... They make a banana peel two RG6 two CAT5e that great to work with. I use it all the time and have a thousand foot spool in my carport for structured wiring jobs. Definitely get a structured wiring panel.

Buy at least a 36" panel. Don't get anything smaller because it's just to tight to cram everything into. I'd tell people to go with a 42" most of the time. Talk with your electrical contractor and be careful because a lot of them are clueless when it comes to low voltage.
Video's on Structured Wiring
Youtube for "structured wiring"

I use Belden 7876S "composite"
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For Speaker Cable I use 1309a and 1310a 2 and 4 conductor 14ga

TIA/EIA-568-B standard for home structured wiring calls for two cat5e and two rg6 to each location. This will allow 4 phone lines, 1GigE/PoE and two coaxes for CATV, L-band and SP/DIF.

Use proper low voltage gang boxes with open backs. Don't use electrical boxes as they can damage the cable and are a bigger pain in the ass than Cat6 and Quad coax!!! If only I had a dollar for each low voltage gang an electrician used an electrical box!!! ARGH!!!

Carlon make the BEST low voltage gang boxes/brackets and don't let the electrical contractor convince you to use metal "mud rings" they are also a PITA and you end up cutting your hands and bleeding all over the place when it comes time to terminate and put plate on there. Also the sharp edges can cut cable jacket and chaff it.
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What ever you do don't overlook low voltage cabling before you get the drywall on. 80% of new home have the structured wiring done improperly and it's really a small investment considering the entire electrical contract right... and cost to build the home!!!

Perhaps 2 grand MAX to do the whole house properly. I rough in locations for home automation control touch screen panels and for AV room a ceiling gang with carlon raceway to AVR rack location for projector etc. Really the key is to rough the stuff in behind where the drywall then you just cut into drywall to expose the cable IF and when you add a automation touch screen or projector etc. Always leave extra 2 feet of cable from gang into the room and carefully push the excess into the wall vert or horz between studs following bend radius specs when you put the plate on. You'll thank your self when it comes time to punch down the Cat5 and terminate the RG6 as the extra length will make it easy to work with.

As with every topic there usually is a BOOK that will explain everything to you and in the end SAVE YOU TIME AND MONEY. Just like so many here need Upgrading and Repairing PCs...
[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Structured-Wiring-Design-Manual-Bucceri/dp/0970005717/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1313656502&sr=8-2"]Structured Wiring Design Manual[/ame]

PS it's really wise to double up on Cat5e as the stuff is so cheap. I always find I end up needing extra UTP pairs for IR and RS232. PM me kckyle if you need for help/explanation.

This guy has a great site on it.
http://www.structuredhomewiring.com/
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