Originally Posted by IEATFISH
As I mentioned in another thread, I don't think it would be too hard (meaning I'm sure Steam and EA/DICE could have worked something out) where people who buy the game on Steam use Steam for DLC and if you buy it on Origin, you use Origin. If EA wants me to hop over to Origin, let me activate my copies from Steam on Origin (at least EA games). Then I would love to try it out. But their current method to me is flawed and I won't support it. If you don't agree with me, so be it, but I'll use my money to support what I feel needs supporting.
Again, the argument that "ZOMG, Steam did the same thing and you support them" doesn't really work at this point with Steam as developed and accepted as it is. If Origin and Steam were released at the same time then it would be relevant.
As with many many many others you are only seeing what you want to see because you want what you want and aren't seeing why it only makes total sense for EA to do what they are doing.
How many PC pre-orders are there for BF3?
Who knows tbh. Lets just say 1 million for the sake of argument.
Now that 1 million pre-orders is basically a guaranteed user base for their new baby named Origin that is just trying to get on its feet.
They MAY be able to secure another 250k pre-orders if they open the game up to steam, but they may also lose 500k on their guaranteed install base for their new business venture.
In business, you dont try to make money one time, you attempt to make sure that you are able to continue making money in the future. A supporting user base will allow this, just as steams user base supports it.
By securing at least a couple million PC pre-orders as a regular user base for Origin, they are helping the platform get on its feet by giving it and their game library wide exposure.
Sure they could open it up to steam, but if steam is already so prevalent on PC gamers computers, then they may end up just getting steamrolled by Steams popup ads and they could lose much of their potential user base and Origin as a platform could end up just being totally overshadowed.
Then they'd have to work at getting that userbase to a healthy number again before they can attempt to get their overall system rolling so they can actually improve it and refine the whole experience.
However, by making sure that they get Origin running at least semi-frequently on a large number of PC gamers systems, they will have jumped that hurdle already and will find it easier to get their whole system moving.
You may not like it, but its not for you to like it at the end of the day.
Its EA doing what they have to do to give Origin a big head start in its business life.
Edited by GrizzleBoy - 8/19/11 at 12:28pm
Originally Posted by GrizzleBoy
The problem with your and many others COMPLETE and FINAL commitment to steam is that:
-If people didn't support steam so vehemently, the idea of making ones games exclusive to your own download client wouldn't be such a "mainstream" idea now.
-Therefore, if steam didn't have so many users that literally invested so much time and money into steam that they've basically trapped themselves to the point where not using steam is a huge inconvenience, this problem actually wouldn't exist
-If people wanted to kill the idea of having to download a client to play a publishers game, people should have rallied against Steam, not Origin. Instead, Steam is publicised by its supporters as pure gold.
-Its too late to cry out now. You put the poison in the cake with all your support. You cant now complain when you get ill of your own doing.
If you didn't want publishers having the idea of making their games exclusive to their own gaming clients, you shouldn't have supported Steam with "thousands" of game play hours and spent "hundreds" on their client.
It is essentially YOU who are the cause of this "too many companies with download clients" situation, by showing the world and other publishers, that you and millions of others think its okay to do so with your undying support.
If you would like to bring up the "but the cheap games/social/x feature is why we support Steam", it is even worse.
You dont agree with publishers pushing their own clients, but will support vehemently, those who give you cheap games or something else on the side.
You basically showed a weak spine towards your so called morals/ideals and bent sideways at the sight of saving some quids off your next purchases, ignoring the fact that supporting steam, is supporting the idea of a publisher making their games available to play only on their individual download client.
Even if its for another reason you support steam, while frowning upon the idea of a publishers wanting you to use their client to run a game, you're simply showing that you will support an idea you dont agree with, as long as you get a "backhander" that will temporarily hush your concerns as long as you get your "bit".
I hope I have awakened some people with this post as it seems many just follow the pitchfork train without really thinking about things properly.
If you are so invested into steam that literally using anything else will hinder your gaming experience, you have noone else to blame for any future publishers pushing their own clients but yourselves.