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It is ironic to see BF fans put up CoD Modern Warfare pictures to defend BF3.

BF3 ?= CoD:MW2
Its not ironic at all, its just you failing to understand the implications.

Those implications being, that MW2, a game that was literally nothing more than console port was boycotted by the Steam community.

MW2, a game that took away the PC players ability to even HAVE a server browser was boycotted against.

MW2 on PC literally stripped everything that made a PC game, a PC game to PC gamers. (Oh no wait sorry. It DID have designs for "MOUSE SUPPORT"..oh Mr Kotick...)

However, 80% of those almost 1000 boycotters from that group ended up with MW2 in their librarys.

Their will to purchase a game that directly pee'd in the face of PC gamers as a whole, was stronger than their will to abstain from it.


Now.


Battlefield is a MUCH more popular series amongst PC gamers than MW2 is (at least among those who would care to "boycott" in the first place) and has received undying love from the PC community for almost a decade.

Even their consolified version of the game was brought to PC and it was lapped up without the hate that the consolified version of MW2 received.


BF3 is also looking to be one of the biggest PC game launches in recent memory.


Now, if those people are so weak they actually took it upon themselves to pay money for a game that is literally laughing in the face of every PC gamer, how are they to sum up the will power to stay away from one of the most loved PC FPS series of all time?


Its like expecting a guy who goes "wobbly knee'd" at the sight of a fully clothed pretty girl to walk into a strip club and not prematurely ejaculate.


Long story short, their will to complain was actually stronger than their will to revolt against whatever they were actually complaining about.


Therefore, the credibility of steam boycotters was tarnished in the process. That is what that picture represents.
Edited by GrizzleBoy - 8/20/11 at 2:18pm
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I'd prefer to not see any of these services achieve a monopoly or near monopoly on DD, and Steam is dangerously close to that.

If Valve and EA are going to mandate 3rd party clients that I am unwilling to use, it's best if they are in conflict/competition.
We're screwed as consumers if we have already forgotten that services like Steam and Origin were not even necessary to play PC games until Counter Strike came along. Our PCs are inching closer to becoming closed platforms, controlled by our corporate overlords.
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Its not ironic at all, its just you failing to understand the implications.

Those implications being, that MW2, a game that was literally nothing more than console port was boycotted by the Steam community.

MW2, a game that took away the PC players ability to even HAVE a server browser was boycotted against.

MW2 on PC literally stripped everything that made a PC game, a PC game to PC gamers. (Oh no wait sorry. It DID have designs for "MOUSE SUPPORT"..oh Mr Kotick...)

However, 80% of those almost 1000 boycotters from that group ended up with MW2 in their librarys.

Their will to purchase a game that directly pee'd in the face of PC gamers was stronger than their will to abstain from it.


Now.


Battlefield is a MUCH more popular series amongst PC gamers than MW2 is (at least among those who would care to "boycott" in the first place) and has received undying love from the PC community for almost a decade.

Even their consolified version of the game was brought to PC and it was lapped up without the hate that the consolified version of MW2 received.


BF3 is also looking to be one of the biggest PC game launches in recent memory.


Now, if those people are so weak they actually took it upon themselves to pay money for a game that is literally laughing in the face of every PC gamer, how are they to sum up the will power to stay away from one of the most loved PC FPS series of all time?


Its like expecting a guy who goes "wobbly knee'd" at the sight of a fully clothed pretty girl to walk into a strip club and not prematurely ejaculate.


Long story short, their will to complain was actually stronger than their will to revolt against whatever they were actually complaining about.
No, when people post that MW2 picture, they are just saying that BF3 is the same game as MW2. People will just play it anyway.

BF = CoD is what I see.
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No, when people post that MW2 picture, they are just saying that BF3 is the same game as MW2. People will just play it anyway.

BF = CoD is what I see.
lol okay.
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No, when people post that MW2 picture, they are just saying that BF3 is the same game as MW2. People will just play it anyway.

BF = CoD is what I see.
wat
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Both of you are missing the problem here. It has almost nothing to do with who is a fan to what franchise. Its what the businesses want to do with the fan base.

The reason why steam users are having their face contorted is because there ability to choose the majority of games that are offered through the steam service has been taken by ea.

At this displeasure, we are here. Some say get over it, others say why should I?


That's where I'm currently at. Why should i divide my libraries to use origin? Ea's response for that is battlefield 3 and its only 1 title to divurge me from a lifetime of support and 100's of titles I've received from steam.

There are still glitches in bc2 that have never been fixed lol. And again I have no problem with origin the client, I have a problem with it only offering EA games, and making them exclusive to only origin.

I didn't spend the money I did on this rig to begin a list of compromises such as those on the table, so currently I'm not convinced to invest in that service from origin.

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We're screwed as consumers if we have already forgotten that services like Steam and Origin were not even necessary to play PC games until Counter Strike came along. Our PCs are inching closer to becoming closed platforms, controlled by our corporate overlords.
Unfortunately, without those services, PC gaming would be severely fractured.
There would be an infinite amount of logins to play different games from developers. Atleast Steam brought all games into one place. Consoles are successful because the service and experience is the same for everyone. It's difficult to satisfy a community like PC, when everyone is looking for a different experience.
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Unfortunately, without those services, PC gaming would be severely fractured.
There would be an infinite amount of logins to play different games from developers. Atleast Steam brought all games into one place. Consoles are successful because the service and experience is the same for everyone. It's difficult to satisfy a community like PC, when everyone is looking for a different experience.
Qfft!
Without steam I would have already lost 90% of my games do to either lost cd key or the disk it self. Not many games use to offer online download. Now look what everyone is doing thanks to steam.
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Qfft!
Without steam I would have already lost 90% of my games do to either lost cd key or the disk it self. Not many games use to offer online download. Now look what everyone is doing thanks to steam.
Same, I love steam! Great prices, easy way to keep tons of games saved.
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You all already know my stance on this....

But yeah, I agree with the first comment on that page. I won't buy BF3 because of Origin myself either. Not that I care if its on Steam or not (would be great, as that's where most of my library is). But I don't trust EA to handle my game license again, not after they screwed me over once with Metro2033.
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