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I won't pre-order unless it's on steam otherwise ill just wait for a physical copy when it hits the stores
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marin View Post
The reason I'm not a fan of Origin is simple. I don't want to have to start from scratch on the community aspect again.
Use FB.
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Originally Posted by Riou View Post
Don't you mean EA: Download Manager? That has been around since 2007 iirc.
I am aware of Origin's roots as EADM. I still believe that is existence, as well as GWFL is a good thing as it keeps Valve motivated to keep improving Steam.
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I made a thread on this issue awhile ago and I as well as others wish EA was on Steam. I want to buy Crysis 2 but I'm waiting until it comes out on Steam ( again ). BF3 too I hope.
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I will wait until the last minute to order.

Competition is all very well, but Steam has all my games in one place, all of my ~80 friends and they didn't give up on the PC market when the consoles were at their peak. EA most definitely did, and I don't care if they want to sell DLC in game... I tend to only buy DLC on Steam because it's all integrated nicely and I know Valve get a cut of the profits.

EA are trying to move into a market that Valve built, and I for one am not interested in their product.

EDIT: More to the point, competition is only relevant if it brings benefit to the consumer; the prices of Steam games, the patching system, the chat and the interface cannot be improved upon by competition.
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It is in EAs best interest to keep it available on Steam.

There are countless people who have said they are not buying it due to lack of Steam option - even if half of them go through with it, it's still quite a large number of players.

If it was available on both Steam and Origin it would force both Steam and Origin to improve upon their service, locking it out of Steam was a silly idea and EA is just trying to make people use Origin by forcing users into it.

I think people are more weary about Origin that Steam because Valve, as a company, has always been good to PC gamers whereas EA will try and ram them for all they have which has left many with a bitter taste in their mouths.

EA will definitely benefit if they launch it on Steam - even with a cut going to Valve, the price of a physical copy in a shop will always be lwoer than on Steam - people are also happy to spend that extra money on Steam just for peace of mind and ease of use.
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It is in EAs best interest to keep it available on Steam.

There are countless people who have said they are not buying it due to lack of Steam option - even if half of them go through with it, it's still quite a large number of players.

If it was available on both Steam and Origin it would force both Steam and Origin to improve upon their service, locking it out of Steam was a silly idea and EA is just trying to make people use Origin by forcing users into it.

I think people are more weary about Origin that Steam because Valve, as a company, has always been good to PC gamers whereas EA will try and ram them for all they have which has left many with a bitter taste in their mouths.

EA will definitely benefit if they launch it on Steam - even with a cut going to Valve, the price of a physical copy in a shop will always be lwoer than on Steam - people are also happy to spend that extra money on Steam just for peace of mind and ease of use.
And with that, the Steam userbase became equivalent to the Apple userbase.

And no, it is in EAs best interests to make sure that the at least five million people that buy BF3, will also become a user base for a new avenue they are looking towards to sell their games.

Remember, kind of like how a certain other publisher made a decision that every one of their games must be run via their client?

They made sure their most popular games required Steam, built up a userbase through those popular games bringing in Steam users, and then were able to flaunt that userbase as a way to say entice publishers to sell their games through Steam while giving Valve a cut.


And as for "countless" people saying they wont buy BF3 due to no steam.......not even one hundred users from OCN will stick with that.

I'm not even sure one hundred OCN members even care......

The BF3 sales are looking to be sky high compared to previous numbers.

Millions and millions and millions and millions will buy buying BF3 and all those millions will be exposed to EAs new business venture.

In all honesty, I dont even think a million users will refrain from BF3 simply because of no steam.

Even if that number DID reach a million, making BF3 non dependant on Origin to run, could easily LOSE them millions more potential exposés to their new client.

For instance:

-5M are set to buy the game. 1M will not due to no steam. Even if that 1M do not buy the game, that's a GUARANTEED 5M users for their new business direction (Origin) that will help it get off the ground due to the mass exposure. Much of that guaranteed 5M WILL generate more revenue in the future. Remember. Origin is a long term vision. Its not just for BF3.

So what could happen if the game is available on Steam?:

-5M are set to buy the game, that extra 1M will now buy due to steam. However, 2M out of that 5M who may already have a steam account, see the game advertised in one of steams popups and buys from there instead.
That means that EAs GUARANTEED userbase numbers for Origin, which is a long term investment, will be potentially much lower. This means they'll have to work harder to create the same user base they could have secured by making the game require Origin.

Then there's the fact that they will both supporting their rival in steam, both financially AND in terms of usage numbers.


I dont see how it could be profitable for a company with a new product to SUPPORT its rival that is already the biggest dog in the kennel by allowing it to earn from something you could do easily by yourself while SECURING a LARGE userbase in the process.

I'm quite sure that the big wigs in EA towers know exactly what they are doing.
Edited by GrizzleBoy - 8/18/11 at 5:31am
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Originally Posted by Tunechi View Post
So you're saying the majority like origin being here?

Lolwut.
The truth is the group who won't buy BF3 because of Origin is going to be very small. I never came close to saying the majority like Origin, even though the list of valid reasons to dislike it is short.

The main thing is that Gabe Newell's statement about it being Valve's responsibility to bring EA back is right on. EA doesn't need Steam; Valve is going to have to give some incentive to bring EA's titles back. I couldn't care much less either way.
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tweet to EA execs etc saying "im not getting *hot release_x* because it is not available on steam, my preferred digital distribution platform."

the power of twitter is pretty crazy... i dont really use it though
but companies dont like to be publicly badmouthed on something like that so much, when everybody focuses on one thing, they take notice.
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