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My soloution to Gabe: just upload all EA Games onto Steam by buying cheap legal copies at the source of the distributor so might be fraction of retail cost or even some cheap place still legal. Everyone is happy as EA still get paid.
post #72 of 198
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Originally Posted by GrizzleBoy View Post
And with that, the Steam userbase became equivalent to the Apple userbase.

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I'm quite sure that the big wigs in EA towers know exactly what they are doing.
I also understand the situation... I don't think there are many people on these forums who don't understand why EA is launching Origin or forcing BF3 users to use it. Thanks for explaining it just in case, but... meh.

I'm still a refusenik on this one. Valve showed us loyalty and practically created the PC market as it stands today. As long as they provide a service as good as they do currently, I'll use any opportunity to give them cash through sales that I can. I'm loyal to Steam not because I'm some cretinous fanboy who ignores evidence to the contrary, but rather because their social, patching, sales and gaming systems are as good as they could possibly be.

Origin simply can't bring me anything Valve haven't already; Steam sales cover cheap games and the rest of the Steam network is awesome. I'm not about to go fragmenting my games purchases between 2 identical systems just to line EAs pockets.

The only reason EA are suddenly keen on this crap is they've realised that unlike consoles they don't have to pay royalties to Sony or MS for each sale, or license development tools. The margins on a PC game sale, delivered digitally, are much healthier.

I'm going to keep on giving my cash to Valve until they give me a good enough reason not to. Origins can kiss the proverbial.

EDIT: I also suspect they're using this as a practise run for providing games without brick n mortar stores for console gamers too. I bet there's some serious discussions going on between EA/Sony/MS about how they can get their new service on their systems... no resale losses, no middle man to pay... it's an ideal situation for EA/MS/Sony.
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post #73 of 198
Here are the reasons I'm more than willing to use Origin:

1) I have almost nothing invested in Steam due to, crazily enough, having not had internet on my gaming PC.
2) As a utility, Origin sounds just as good as Steam for my purposes, so I'll use either or both.
3) This is a rather simple business-driven scenario. Valve and EA will have to work out some business solution if they want to repair their partnership.
post #74 of 198
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I also understand the situation... I don't think there are many people on these forums who don't understand why EA is launching Origin or forcing BF3 users to use it. Thanks for explaining it just in case, but... meh.

I'm still a refusenik on this one. Valve showed us loyalty and practically created the PC market as it stands today. As long as they provide a service as good as they do currently, I'll use any opportunity to give them cash through sales that I can. I'm loyal to Steam not because I'm some cretinous fanboy who ignores evidence to the contrary, but rather because their social, patching, sales and gaming systems are as good as they could possibly be.

Origin simply can't bring me anything Valve haven't already; Steam sales cover cheap games and the rest of the Steam network is awesome. I'm not about to go fragmenting my games purchases between 2 identical systems just to line EAs pockets.

The only reason EA are suddenly keen on this crap is they've realised that unlike consoles they don't have to pay royalties to Sony or MS for each sale, or license development tools. The margins on a PC game sale, delivered digitally, are much healthier.

I'm going to keep on giving my cash to Valve until they give me a good enough reason not to. Origins can kiss the proverbial.

EDIT: I also suspect they're using this as a practise run for providing games without brick n mortar stores for console gamers too. I bet there's some serious discussions going on between EA/Sony/MS about how they can get their new service on their systems... no resale losses, no middle man to pay... it's an ideal situation for EA/MS/Sony.
Sure Steam is a nice platform, but there's no way I'm going to pay their over-inflated prices just for their services. To have an allegiance to them is silly...but I can understand it.
Obviously their sales are nice and that's the only time I'll buy something from them.

Steam is nothing special, it has no divine right to the retail market. I'll happily use Origin if I have to (just like when I have to use Steam) as long as I can still buy the game cheaply from Amazon or wherever in the first place.
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Sure Steam is a nice platform, but there's no way I'm going to pay their over-inflated prices just for their services.
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I second this. Steam is so cheap compared to... well just about everything else.
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Well, their sale prices are great. For any random game at a given time it probably isn't the cheapest option, but it's convenient enough that I'm sure a lot of people don't mind.
post #78 of 198
YEEEEEEEEEES! Hopefully they allow us to pre-order BF3 on there.
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I second this. Steam is so cheap compared to... well just about everything else.
Steam is the most expensive option compared to... well just about evreything else in Europe. OCN users praise Steam because they aren't aware or simply don't care of how Valve is completely ripping us off here in Europe, and it's even worse in Australia and New zealand.
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Origin was required for the BF3 alpha, to be running in the background being useless, and it will be required to run for retail.
That's weird cause with all the other games I have on there don't require it to be running the background...
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