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Originally Posted by snoball;14617212 
Yep, with a Athlon II x4 635 and a HD 6870 you are in great range for running BF3, sadly not near max though. I'm thinking you will hold the magical 60 FPS mark with your new rig.

So I should get a new CPU then?
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post #12 of 20
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Originally Posted by amorph View Post
Athlon II X3's and X4's have almost the same performance as Phenom II X3's and X4's when it comes to games.

Phenom II's tend to overclock better tho.
Absolutely false. I had a 635 overclocked to 3.6GHz and my 955BE at STOCK outperforms it in every game and benchmark.

As for overclocking better, that depends. If you get a C2 Phenom then not really, if you get a C3, 4GHz should be easy enough.
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I'm getting a HIS H687F1G2M Radeon HD 6870, is that a good card?
That'll do fine.

You might even get away with a cheaper card like a 6850.

A 6850 should be enough to max out just about any game on single monitor setups at at least/over 30fps

Heck you might even get away with something like a 5770 or a 6770
Edited by amorph - 8/17/11 at 12:05pm
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post #14 of 20
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So I should get a new CPU then?
No, if you are new to PC gaming I say stick with what you have now. I never recommend enthusiast rigs to beginners. Try out the entry level parts first, like you are now.
 
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post #15 of 20
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Absolutely false. I had a 635 overclocked to 3.6GHz and my 955BE at STOCK outperforms it in every game and benchmark.

As for overclocking better, that depends. If you get a C2 Phenom then not really, if you get a C3, 4GHz should be easy enough.
I stand corrected then.

I was just making a judgement based on benchmarks I've seen that showed Athlon II's and Phenom II's in the same performance bracket at stock.

I've no actual hands-on experience with Athlon II's. My 1090T was my first AMD chip.
Edited by amorph - 8/17/11 at 12:05pm
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No, if you are new to PC gaming I say stick with what you have now. I never recommend enthusiast rigs to beginners. Try out the entry level parts first, like you are now.
Ah, okay. Thanks. All I need is a new case and a new GPU and I'm set.
I want to upgrade to full tower since I have a mid tower for better airflow. Is this one a good choice? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119160
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post #17 of 20
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I stand corrected then.

I was just making a judgement based on benchmarks I've seen that showed Athlon II's and Phenom II's in the same performance bracket at stock.
Yea, that's what the review pages say but realistically the difference is in the 10-20% range is actual gaming, not benchmarks. I think the benchies don't cooperate with AMD or something.
 
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post #18 of 20
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Ah, okay. Thanks. All I need is a new case and a new GPU and I'm set.
I want to upgrade to full tower since I have a mid tower for better airflow. Is this one a good choice? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119160
Cases are always a good choice, it is what ever design you like. The 932 is a very good case from what I know. Keeps airflow up and cools you down.
 
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post #19 of 20
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Cases are always a good choice, it is what ever design you like. The 932 is a very good case from what I know. Keeps airflow up and cools you down.
Thanks again!
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post #20 of 20
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Ah, okay. Thanks. All I need is a new case and a new GPU and I'm set.
I want to upgrade to full tower since I have a mid tower for better airflow. Is this one a good choice? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119160
If you try out the Coolermaster store you can sometimes find refurbished HAF-X's for less then the price of HAF 932's.

The HAF-X is the successor to the 932.

I got my HAF-X off of Coolermaster's EU store for only €100 and it was in perfect condition.
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