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Sorry for the not replying for awhile, unexpected events...

I don't know how to figure out my RAM timings, so I'll just post my CPUID of it.

    
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What I would do is get your motherboard manual and learn a little about your bios. A majority of problems can solved by knowing how to change settings in bios.
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My Bios tells me that my Memory timings are 5-5-5-18.

Don't know what that mean, but that's them.
    
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Check Intels site. Just a quick look there, I think they have a bios update or two. Which may include better CPU support. Plus read the manual on your board.
As a quick note, if anything reset your bios to defaults and go from there. Just remember, if you have your sata controller set for IDE, or ACHI make sure you do reset that back to what you currently are running. Otherwise you will have to do a Win repair.

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A bottleneck won't cause temps to increase. It's just a term that means that one aspect of your system is holding others back.

Your 212 should be able to cool the Q6600 just fine until you really ramp up the voltage. A 3.6ghz Q6600 will require high volts and a really big air cooler like a thermaltake 120 extreme (I used to have a Q6600, so I talk from experience). If you're getting temperature problems, especially at stock speeds, you should reseat the heatsink and reapply the thermal paste.

The best method for applying paste to a chip like a Q6600 (which isn't a native quad core, it's 2x C2Ds bolted together) is the line method. Use a thin line horizontally across the CPU, and make sure to not use too much thermal paste. There shouldn't be much more than 2 grains of rice in total volume of the paste.

As for your bottleneck question, yes, your CPU is a heavy bottleneck on a 560ti with your resolution. Even at 3.6GHZ my Q6600 would be the limiting factor on many games. Moving to my i5 at 4.0ghz really made a big difference in FPS in some games (starcraft 2 was a huge one that I remember), even though the GPU remained the same. Once you fix your cooling issue, try and at least move the q6600 to 3/3.2ghz, it'll make a big difference.

DDR2-800 at 5-5-5-18 is a very slow timing as well. Most DDR2-800 is either 4-4-4-12 (older kits) or 5-5-5-15. Look up your RAM and see what timings and voltages it's designed to run at, and set those values manually in the bios.

It's always a good idea to flash the motherboard bios to the latest version as well.
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post #16 of 56
First...back up your data...now.

Then go to your hard drive manufacturers website, download, and run the diagnostic utility. I'm assuming your on broadband internet with no torrent sucking roommates.

-reinstall steam yet?
-did you reinstall windows or just stick in the goodies and let er rip?
-updated BIOS available?
-check hard drive mode and get back to us (ide, ahci, raid)

Also, my GTX 460 1 GB ran Bad Company 2 like garbage on a 3.6 Ghz Q9550, but an i5 760 at 2.8 Ghz gave it wings like a balded flippin' eagle. I hate to say it, but you would have had better luck with a 5870. They play nicer with older cpus.

Also, why 32 bit Windows?
Edited by Jodiuh - 9/2/11 at 11:30pm
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A Core 2 @2.4GHz is going to bottleneck a GeForce GTX 560 Ti.

That being said, there is most likely something else wrong. At worst (which is unlikely), you should be seeing the same performance, not worse, than you did before, and with the hitches and temperatures, it sounds like something else is amiss.

Maybe the GPU is bad? Have you tried a fresh install/setup with the new GPU? Maybe it's a driver/software issue?
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DDR2-800 at 5-5-5-18 is a very slow timing as well. Most DDR2-800 is either 4-4-4-12 (older kits) or 5-5-5-15. Look up your RAM and see what timings and voltages it's designed to run at, and set those values manually in the bios.
I have an A-Data pc2-6400 1gb 800 with 5-5-5-18 timings running at 400mhz in slot one and a PNY pc2-6400 1gb 800 with 4-4-4-12 timings running at 400mhz in slot two. Slot 3 is the same as slot one and slot 4 is the same as slot 2.

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Maybe the GPU is bad? Have you tried a fresh install/setup with the new GPU? Maybe it's a driver/software issue?
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TBH, You need to upgrade most of your system... C2D is ageing, And is near obsolete
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TBH, You need to upgrade most of your system... C2D is ageing, And is near obsolete
Near? It would be best to save up for a new mobo, processor, and ram. That C2D is going to hold you back.

An old processor + a new decent graphics card shouldn't be causing problems with your system slowing down. Especially when you have not even started to load the cpu or gpu. Something else is wrong. How's your ram usage?
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