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I'm running the F3 BIOS on my z68 w/ 2600k and no matter what I set in the BIOS, at 4.4Ghz my CPU runs at 1.3771 in P95.

I've tried setting just the vcore manually, I've tried setting the vcore to normal then setting the 'dynamic vcore' so that it reaches 1.35 (I would like to work my way down to reduce temps) but no matter the setting it runs 1.3711V verified in both CoreTemp and TouchBIOS.

What's going on?
Should I flash back to F2 or F1? When i was running F1 my core temps were reading about 10C higher than they are now, which makes me hesitant. However, my benchmark scores were noticeably higher.
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I think that is Intel Enhanced Speed Step upping your voltage under load. You could turn it off to make the voltage constant. It did not do this before??
 
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Hey
I have the same board and for my 4.5 oc my vcore was set manually to 1.355 and Load Line Calibration (above vcore setting) to level 5 and my voltages idle are 1.38 and load 1.37
Level 5 means that vcore stays near to consistent but you have to find yourself on how to get 1.35 for example; u could try setting 1.335 manually with level 5 Load line calibration
Z68 doesn't have good support for voltage readings but what I use is HWmonitor, the vcore bit in it is wrong but at the bottom of the voltages list there is one reading for just CPU and it seems to be the same as what the bios itself reads it as when I check in the PC health status section, try reading your voltages this way
For me, and expected for you, core temp gives dodgey readings
Let me know how it goes, I've been through similar issues with voltages on my board too and I don't know if its the board or the chip I seem to need pretty high volts for 'low' overclocks compared to many ppl
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Wow, sorry I did not realize this board had LLC. FAIL!

Did you try reducing the vcore to see if LLC maxes the vcore out at 1.35v if say you set it to 1.3125v or 1.325v?
 
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there is a multilevel LLC or it might only be enable and disable, its in voltage panel man, how can you miss that? lol You have to use LLC on these boards as SandyBridge's vdroop is pretty big.
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Hey
I have the same board and for my 4.5 oc my vcore was set manually to 1.355 and Load Line Calibration (above vcore setting) to level 5 and my voltages idle are 1.38 and load 1.37
Level 5 means that vcore stays near to consistent but you have to find yourself on how to get 1.35 for example; u could try setting 1.335 manually with level 5 Load line calibration
Z68 doesn't have good support for voltage readings but what I use is HWmonitor, the vcore bit in it is wrong but at the bottom of the voltages list there is one reading for just CPU and it seems to be the same as what the bios itself reads it as when I check in the PC health status section, try reading your voltages this way
For me, and expected for you, core temp gives dodgey readings
Let me know how it goes, I've been through similar issues with voltages on my board too and I don't know if its the board or the chip I seem to need pretty high volts for 'low' overclocks compared to many ppl
A14M3D
My readings in coretemp seem to be about middle-of-the-road of all that I've used. If TouchBios is to be believed though, then I idle at 24 and load at 42 @ 4.4/1.37. Is there any set specification for the LLC levels? I'm a bit nervous about throwing down numbers then choosing some seemingly-arbitrary LLC level. TouchBios claims that while P95 with vcore set to 1.350 my voltage is actually 1.28. I don't know which reading to trust.

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Wow, sorry I did not realize this board had LLC. FAIL!

Did you try reducing the vcore to see if LLC maxes the vcore out at 1.35v if say you set it to 1.3125v or 1.325v?
There are 11 LLC levels. I have no idea what each level corresponds to.

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there is a multilevel LLC or it might only be enable and disable, its in voltage panel man, how can you miss that? lol You have to use LLC on these boards as SandyBridge's vdroop is pretty big.
Didn't know this. I always left it disabled. It goes from 1-11 though. My overclocking experience is Athalon 64 3200+, Phenom II 955BE, and OCing my HP laptop by enabling dual-IDA and adjusting voltages through ClockGen; so vdroop is a completely new concept for me.

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1 is the lowest LLC level bump to voltage and 11 is the highest. It is safe to play around with it.

LLC basically boosts your voltage while under load. The concept is the CPU voltage will run lower under idle conditions and higher under load. If you run stock, and you runn level 11, you may be able to drop the voltage (undervolt) to 1.25v and the LLC will kick in under load and run at 1.28v. You would need to mess around a little to see what each level does to the voltage under load. My numbers are conceptual.

I do not suggest turning it off because some boards end up undervolting and crashing under load with it off, but changing it to a lower level will limit the increase.
 
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i'll try to make it easy for you to understand, i'll be using two terms which helped me understand it too
Vdroop - voltage drops under load
Vgain - voltage increases under load
now i'll go through all the choices available in the LLC section

Disabled - BOTH Vdroop and Vdrop are on full; vdrop is a motherboard system which lowers all voltages on the board
Level 1 - FULL Vdroop is on but Vdrop is turned off (think of this as being 100% of the Vdroop on)
Level 2 - 75% Vdroop
Level 3 - 50% Vdroop
Level 4 - 25% Vdroop
Level 5 - 0% Vdroop and 0% Vgain (voltage stays mopre or less constant, i say this because it does fluctuate a tiny bit)
Level 6 - 25% Vgain
Level 7 - 50% Vgain
and so on.....
so levels 1-4 Vdroop but the higher the number the less it droops
level 5 more or less constant
levels 6-11 Vgain, the higher the number the more it gains

i was recommended to set it so that under load the voltage should either stay constant or droop slightly, not gain as high volts and temps kill the cpu the quickest, but if your temps are cool and if the voltages are in the limits why not

just to let you know this is what i picked up from my experience, an annoying and long-lasting one hope it helps to solve your issue
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Nice ^ +1
 
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i'll try to make it easy for you to understand, i'll be using two terms which helped me understand it too
Vdroop - voltage drops under load
Vgain - voltage increases under load
now i'll go through all the choices available in the LLC section

Disabled - BOTH Vdroop and Vdrop are on full; vdrop is a motherboard system which lowers all voltages on the board
Level 1 - FULL Vdroop is on but Vdrop is turned off (think of this as being 100% of the Vdroop on)
Level 2 - 75% Vdroop
Level 3 - 50% Vdroop
Level 4 - 25% Vdroop
Level 5 - 0% Vdroop and 0% Vgain (voltage stays mopre or less constant, i say this because it does fluctuate a tiny bit)
Level 6 - 25% Vgain
Level 7 - 50% Vgain
and so on.....
so levels 1-4 Vdroop but the higher the number the less it droops
level 5 more or less constant
levels 6-11 Vgain, the higher the number the more it gains

i was recommended to set it so that under load the voltage should either stay constant or droop slightly, not gain as high volts and temps kill the cpu the quickest, but if your temps are cool and if the voltages are in the limits why not

just to let you know this is what i picked up from my experience, an annoying and long-lasting one hope it helps to solve your issue
This is very useful information! Thank you very much and +rep. However, it just frustrates me a little more because I have LLC disabled and it's overvolting my CPU at load and idling it at 1.28-1.32V according to CoreTemp and HWinfo64. HWmonior says it's 1.36 always and forever, even under P95 load.

EasyTune and TouchBios say it's 24C when CoreTemp reads 32C and at the same time HWmonitor says 36 and HWinfo64 says 37.

I'll try LLC 5 now and see where that puts me voltage-wise then adjust from there.
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