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These days Ripjaws are mild when it comes to having tall heatsinks on RAM. You can find stuff with silly coxcombs that are part of the heatsink. At least with Dominators you can remove them by taking off some screws.

But Classic Ripjaws - they're compatible with heatsinks, right?

Right - sort of. Let's look at the Noctua NH-D14. The D14 has a lot of clearance under the fin stack, and it's front push fan can be repositioned upward to avoid conflict with RAM heatsinks. So let's see how fans fit.

Here are Ripjaws. Look in the lower left corner. See how the fan's flange fits between the RAM heatsinks, pushing one to the side:




And again, this time with a 38mm fan in the lower right corner. This only works when a fan has open corners:




Now look at a fan that does not have open corners:




I can tell you from testing that raising a fan a few mm can lose you 0.5c cooling. Raising it more may lose you more cooling.

So, what to do? Let's look at low profile RAM:



The low profile stick is DDR3-1600 1.5v. No need for tall heatsinks. I can tell you that when I put my hand on the 1.65v Ripjaws it is hot enough to feel it, but not so hot that you need to take your hand away. So even Ripjaws does not need tall RAM heatsinks.

And the effect of low profile RAM? Here:




Note there is clearance at the bottom:




And the top is flush with the finstack:



So - don't get high heatsink RAM, much less the stuff with the silly coxcombs.
Edited by ehume - 8/17/11 at 6:37pm
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As an fyi, Mushkin ram (both Ridgeback and Frosbyte heatsinks) fit under a Silver Arrow with 3 fans.
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is there more to add? i sense a good thread coming out of this. under what height do you consider to be low profile? or anything that is just above the ram stick itself?
   
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I ran my Arrow and NH-D14 without a fan on the front, usually with just a powerful middle fan.

It's rather have CPU temps 3-4C higher than not be able to put a fan over my memory, have it reach 80C+ and be completely unstable. Omitting the back fan often keeps VRMs cooler as well.

If you have slower, low voltage memory, it should already have pretty low profile, or non-existent, heatspreaders.
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is there more to add? i sense a good thread coming out of this. under what height do you consider to be low profile? or anything that is just above the ram stick itself?
Yes. There was more to add. I had to do an errand in the middle of making this.

Low profile is where the heatsink hugs the PCB. I've now posted a pic of low profile RAM.

As for hot RAM: the newer cpu's have a limit on how high you can make the memory controller voltage. For Lynnfields that is 1.65v. With future chips we will likely see lower limits. I predict 1.5v soon.
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So is 1.65v RAM ok for SB? But I should make it 1.5?
    
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yeah you can just make it 1.5v i don't see a point in going higher with regular ram speeds, also ehume what is that brown fan you are using on the silver arrow in the pic with the gskill ram? how is its performance? im just curious because of the fan shape
   
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post #8 of 40
Quote:
Originally Posted by HWI View Post
As an fyi, Mushkin ram (both Ridgeback and Frosbyte heatsinks) fit under a Silver Arrow with 3 fans.
Well you could have posted this when I was looking for a heatsink.
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lol there are some nice lp ram for sale right now in the online deals section
   
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ehume, tell me what you think of this, in terms of ram clearance.

Mobo

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138317

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835103069

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