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Poll Results: What are the best improvments Windows 8 should have?

 
  • 9% (6)
    New File system
  • 24% (16)
    Improvements in registry implementation
  • 4% (3)
    New Directx Engine
  • 10% (7)
    Less resource consumer OS
  • 24% (16)
    Should be only 64-bit
  • 1% (1)
    Improvements in security
  • 7% (5)
    Revamp the User interface
  • 1% (1)
    Windows Update evolution
  • 15% (10)
    Better price
65 Total Votes  
post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
Hello Guys

I start this thread because:

1. Pretty curious about what should be the most important development in this next release at the eyes of the consumer.
2. I am bored, especially today.

I made a option scheme that should be interesting,it is single option poll for now, my mistake

- New File system,( To stop fragmentation of the OS over time, once and for all)
- Improvements in registry implementation (Microsoft starts to eliminate the importance of the registry process in the OS functions, transition to a registry less OS).
- New DirectX Engine (Improvements in performance, faster draw calls etc. etc.)
- Less resource consumer OS. ( It should use equally or less resources than Windows 7).
- Should be only 64-bit
- Improvements in security (Implement resilience optimization to the code, for less vulnerability since day 1 release)
- Revamp the User interface (We are bored of the same UI Interface, we need revolution!)
- Windows Update evolution (Yes update all my applications in Windows)
- We need a better product price scheme!

Ok let’s start some constructive discussion

Thanks!
Edited by Eduardv - 8/17/11 at 10:14pm
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post #2 of 20
Looking forward to what windows 8 tablets might bring.
I have no interest in current tablets, they do nothing more than what my phone does.
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post #3 of 20
i think there should be a better system for installing programs on main vs. secondary drives. although that is more based around installers related to programs more than anything in the OS.
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- Improvements in registry implementation
Sounds good to me. When they releaced the registry to beyond 16m size and all the programs started using it Any possible way they could because it was in RAM. some programs abused the privelage. I dont see this as a MS problem, because they do it too, but just general programs.
80% of the uses of the registry could have instead been in a configuration file or even (for the pigs) in a configuration database. and the registry could have been left for interactivity , compatability, the sytem itself (not the 8 subsystems) , and interopterability (gosh is that a word) Each program could still chose to load its own massive mess of a configurations file or database into ram, without abusing the registry to do so.
Programs that stay in thier own little Pile, and are portable and are more self sustaining, , Are portable and self sustaining :-) with less to go wrong, less goes wrong.
This has the plus that anything you screw up in one program would be mostly what you screwed up in that program, not effecting others. if there are settings that one program desires, that another program changes, if they kept in and allowed thier own little existance, they could be virually seperated.

- Less resource consumer OS.
This is cool too, I dont care How, but optomisations of software are often times faster than a 25% overclock :-) Combine the 2 and you have fast hardware on a fast system. If MS would go back to the old school and get it to run on a 512M 400 P2 system through fully optomised software, it would run rings around its former self, and guarentee selling an update to it.
Think if you were (or even could) run a win95 software on a 4.5g machine, instead of taking all that speed always and using it all up again.
not only could they sell it to any machine, but the best machines would still be faster. its a win-win :-)

End virtual memory?
Keep virtual program addressing, dump virtual memory. Its time is finished, Leave the ease of a program requesting memory to not have to pick the location, but dump this BS of hard disk paging, and that overhead of that. Properly tossed out, and allowing or enforcing, dynamic accesses all over again, could reduce the consumption of "real" memory more than paging does.
a tour through the real memory shows that large percentages of it are full of Zeros. Again i dont know how, but mabey it is time to use those spaaces for something usefull, and toss the 1978 versions of memory managment?
Edited by Psycogeek - 8/17/11 at 10:48pm
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Improve reg
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dham View Post
Registry
Why do you say that? What needs to be improved?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Smoblikat View Post
Improve reg
Same as above.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycogeek View Post
- Improvements in registry implementation
Sounds good to me. When they releaced the registry to beyond 16m size and all the programs started using it Any possible way they could because it was in RAM. some programs abused the privelage. I dont see this as a MS problem, because they do it too, but just general programs.
80% of the uses of the registry could have instead been in a configuration file or even (for the pigs) in a configuration database. and the registry could have been left for interactivity , compatability, the sytem itself (not the 8 subsystems) , and interopterability (gosh is that a word) Each program could still chose to load its own massive mess of a configurations file or database into ram, without abusing the registry to do so.
Programs that stay in thier own little Pile, and are portable and are more self sustaining, , Are portable and self sustaining :-) with less to go wrong, less goes wrong.
This has the plus that anything you screw up in one program would be mostly what you screwed up in that program, not effecting others. if there are settings that one program desires, that another program changes, if they kept in and allowed thier own little existance, they could be virually seperated.

- Less resource consumer OS.
This is cool too, I dont care How, but optomisations of software are often times faster than a 25% overclock :-) Combine the 2 and you have fast hardware on a fast system. If MS would go back to the old school and get it to run on a 512M 400 P2 system through fully optomised software, it would run rings around its former self, and guarentee selling an update to it.
Think if you were (or even could) run a win95 software on a 4.5g machine, instead of taking all that speed always and using it all up again.
not only could they sell it to any machine, but the best machines would still be faster. its a win-win :-)

End virtual memory?
Keep virtual program addressing, dump virtual memory. Its time is finished, Leave the ease of a program requesting memory to not have to pick the location, but dump this BS of hard disk paging, and that overhead of that. Properly tossed out, and allowing or enforcing, dynamic accesses all over again, could reduce the consumption of "real" memory more than paging does.
a tour through the real memory shows that large percentages of it are full of Zeros. Again i dont know how, but mabey it is time to use those spaaces for something usefull, and toss the 1978 versions of memory managment?
Most informative post of this thread. I enjoy your ideas.

Registry implementation: I think the registry, just like .ini files, have their ups and downs. Microsoft harbors some of the blame, since it is their product, but I think we shouldn't be so quick as to point the finger at them. As you said, software developers have used the registry as a catch-all for everything. So, in essence, wouldn't it be their fault the registry has problems sometimes? Otherwise the registry is just one big database, and databases work very well because of the implementation. And in this case, I think Microsoft just needs small improvements and/or restrictions, and not an entire overhaul. Though I do wish programs were more portable.

Less Resources: Windows 8 is supposed to run as well as Windows 7, so I don't think this is an issue. For example, Tiger only required 256MB RAM, Leopard needed 512MB RAM, Snow Leopard requires 1GB RAM, and now Lion requires at least 2GBs of RAM. You see the progression here? I'd say, instead of saying less resources, remove compatibility of old programs. I feel as if that bloats the OS and makes it run slower than it should.

Virtual Memory: You have got to remember, if you don't have enough RAM, a program will write to the paging file on your disk, otherwise it won't. Simple enough really. No need to remove paging if you're not even using it, because some people may need paging.


I voted for a new filesystem. NTFS is too limiting for future compatibility. We need some ZFS loving in Windows.
Edited by cubanresourceful - 8/18/11 at 7:12am
post #8 of 20
Improve the visual appearance? Even with aero it still looks "clunky" a little refinement would go a long way.
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post #9 of 20
New direct x engine - to be honest i think a new version just isn't important at the moment. Most games don't even use the current version of direct x.

Windows update - I agree with the idea that windows update should be able to update third party programs. This would also increase the security of the OS as security holes and bugs are in new program versions.

user interface - i actually love the windows 7 interface and am struggling to find ways to improve it. Maybe it could be streamlined so it uses resources.

Make it use less resources - The current trend in new versions of windows is to have increased hardware requirements in each version. With windows 8 microsoft needs to change this. It needs to be optimised to use less memory, disable services that the user never uses, eliminate the reliance on the registry and reduce the number of background processes.
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post #10 of 20
Don't limit wierd stuff in windows versions

e.g.

Windows 7 Premium can makes backups, but can't save the backup file over a network, that requires Windows 7 Pro

wth

Network saving is just a file path, why would I need to upgrade for pro, just so the backup can use a network file path

stuff like that just annoys me, also, 64bit only
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