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Hey guys. I'm putting together a list for a (very) budget surprise computer I'll be building my room-mate for Christmas. He keeps yearning for a newer rig, but just won't be able to afford it anytime soon. I'm basing the platform off of the i3-2105 (on the H67 chipset) because it has better integrated graphics than the i3-2100 (Intel HD Graphics 3000 vs 2000), and only costs $10 more. He uses his current rig for SC2, WoW, the internet, and Netflix.

My question is this: I don't know if the integrated graphics would be enough to run WoW and SC2 on at least "High" settings. What do you think? If not, what is the cheapest GPU I could get him so that he could? He has expressed a great desire to play the games at that level rather than "Low" and "Fair". For what it's worth, he'll have 4Gb of DDR3 RAM.

Oh, and he runs one monitor right now but really wants to try a dual monitor setup. I know the integrated graphics can support up to two monitors, so it would be ideal if the GPU could, too (as far as I know almost all GPUs these days can, but I wanted to throw that in!).

As always, thank you in advance.
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No the intergrated won't be enough to run SC2 on high.. Best look into something, like a 6850...
 
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I didn't think it would. :/

Is there anything cheaper? A 6670 or 6750 perhaps? :x
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This page has some Starcraft 2 benchmarks so you can see how the HD3000 GPU copes with higher settings. While it's a notebook site, it at least gives you some ballpark figures to work with. Basically it'll probably be next to unplayable above medium.

Exactly how limited in budget are you? A 6750/6770/6790 would probably be fine.
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This page has some Starcraft 2 benchmarks so you can see how the HD3000 GPU copes with higher settings. While it's a notebook site, it at least gives you some ballpark figures to work with. Basically it'll probably be next to unplayable above medium.

Exactly how limited in budget are you? A 6750/6770/6790 would probably be fine.
Awesome. Thanks man.

As for the budget...like I said, the cheaper the better. We're both college students and this is a gift. lol
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well the 560ti is the card ta really offers the most bang for buck but at $250 may be a bit much, a 550 / 550ti are cheap and powerful at $150 ish and the there is the ati side but i dont no my numbers for them,

you really want to go for a GPU!!!

the ati 6850 will go for about the $180 mark and have hear good things about them, they can be really good in cross fire, so i you can get a board that supports cross fire it will give him a really good upgrade path, and a cross fire board isn't that much more opposed to sli
so a ati cross fire ready build may be the way to go,

it comes down to future upgrades a ati card will be cheaper to get a mother board for, however at the $150 you can get a good 550ti or a cheat 560 so.... those cards, at least in my view will be better performers for money than the ati equivalents

wish you the best for the build, if you can give an exact budget for the graphics card we can help more, but if you are going to spend less than $150 on the card it may just be worth waiting till you have the $150 and getting a card that has some power, a 560ti will run battle field bad company 2 at max, so that is a great card and a 550 will get it running dam well so for the money both are great cards,

final conclusion
$150 = GTX550
$250 = GTx560ti
less than $150 = save you money till u have $150 and get a card then,

best of luck sounds like a great thing to do for a friend.

BTW prices are in Australia and we get taxed like all buggery, so chances are the cards are cheaper than what i priced
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well the 560ti is the card ta really offers the most bang for buck but at $250 may be a bit much, a 550 / 550ti are cheap and powerful at $150 ish and the there is the ati side but i dont no my numbers for them,

you really want to go for a GPU!!!

the ati 6850 will go for about the $180 mark and have hear good things about them, they can be really good in cross fire, so i you can get a board that supports cross fire it will give him a really good upgrade path, and a cross fire board isn't that much more opposed to sli
so a ati cross fire ready build may be the way to go,

it comes down to future upgrades a ati card will be cheaper to get a mother board for, however at the $150 you can get a good 550ti or a cheat 560 so.... those cards, at least in my view will be better performers for money than the ati equivalents

wish you the best for the build, if you can give an exact budget for the graphics card we can help more, but if you are going to spend less than $150 on the card it may just be worth waiting till you have the $150 and getting a card that has some power, a 560ti will run battle field bad company 2 at max, so that is a great card and a 550 will get it running dam well so for the money both are great cards,

final conclusion
$150 = GTX550
$250 = GTx560ti
less than $150 = save you money till u have $150 and get a card then,

best of luck sounds like a great thing to do for a friend.

BTW prices are in Australia and we get taxed like all buggery, so chances are the cards are cheaper than what i priced
lol thanks for your input man. I'll definitely check it out.
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Awesome. Thanks man.

As for the budget...like I said, the cheaper the better. We're both college students and this is a gift. lol
What res is he going to be playing at? A GT440 will be ~$75, but performance in WoW above 1280x1024 won't be amazing... although having said that, run without AA, and it'll be better (that's in DX11 mode, Ultra settings apparently). So with high settings it'll probably be a lot better.

Or a recertified GTX460 will be ~$150. I know the GTX460 will handle 90% of the things you can throw at it, but I'm less sure about the GT440.

On the AMD front, I'd not bother looking at anything less than a 6750/70/90, depending on how little you can find one for.

If you can find someone wanting to see an 8800GT or something like that for cheap-as-chips, that might be an acceptable option, too. The 8800GT was no slouch back in the day, and is still fairly powerful.
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What res is he going to be playing at? A GT440 will be ~$75, but performance in WoW above 1280x1024 won't be amazing... although having said that, run without AA, and it'll be better (that's in DX11 mode, Ultra settings apparently). So with high settings it'll probably be a lot better.

Or a recertified GTX460 will be ~$150. I know the GTX460 will handle 90% of the things you can throw at it, but I'm less sure about the GT440.

On the AMD front, I'd not bother looking at anything less than a 6750/70/90, depending on how little you can find one for.

If you can find someone wanting to see an 8800GT or something like that for cheap-as-chips, that might be an acceptable option, too. The 8800GT was no slouch back in the day, and is still fairly powerful.
Oh spiffy. Thanks!
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it comes down to future upgrades a ati card will be cheaper to get a mother board for, however at the $150 you can get a good 550ti or a cheat 560 so.... those cards, at least in my view will be better performers for money than the ati equivalents
Definitely not, GTX 550 is one of the worst performing bang/buck cards that gets beaten by a cheaper GTX 460 768MB 9 times out of 10.

I recommend getting a GTX 460 768MB, it costs less than a GTX 550/6850 and will beat both a 6850 and a GTX 550 Ti at World of Warcraft easily. It costs about $130 and can run WoW at Ultra settings and 4xAA, which is well above what you want.


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