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Turboizing The old Core 2 stuff? ever been done?

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I just had a completly useless, but interesting idea, and i was wondering if it is already a piece of software somewhere?

A) Lots of older 775 stuff never had "turbo" in it.

B) Lots of the 775 stuff can be soft clocked , even if you have not found your old board in the lists for the soft clock tools.
Almost every intel can be stepped, and in single steps.

C) It is possible for a program(s) to determine if the cpu use % has or is going beyond a certian % level, or mabey if more than 2 or 3 cores are being used.

Would you agree that many older core 2 and quad items can overclock less cores, As long as they cool out when it is 100% on all 4 cores?

A+B+C= Then isnt it possible to have a turbo overclock software , for older hardware and processors? even older AMD multi core?

Example: I have a xeon 3380 (same as 9650) , because of the Asus-P5b-D power regulation capacity , it has a terrrible time being fully stable with IBT and FFT Small at 4.1g speeds.
But manually testing, i could easily run 2-3cores at 100% , and the power regulation can easily keep up with the load.
Wheras
I can only keep it fully 100% stable with 4 cores at 100% at ~3.8-3.9, with way to much voltage, and the poor old board not really handling it.

There are also stepping utilities, that can step 1 multi. the main purpose of these stepping utilities is exactally the opposite, step UP when there is more load.

Assuming i know how turbo works on the newer boards, stepping either the clock down or the multi down 1 as needed when more of the cpu is used, why couldnt software (instead of my manuel testing, or bios) be able to do this for the older stuff?

It would be like putting winflip and visualtasktips on an old xp, to make believe it is windows 7 .

What think ye?
Edited by Psycogeek - 8/18/11 at 5:27am
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The entire turbo thing is built inside the processor, therefore eliminating the need to waste processing time on seeing "hmm, am I busy enough to jump a few multi and drop a core?"
    
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I'm not expert in programming (an amateur when it comes to vb/java), but that would assume that all mobos use the same chipsets/clock generators, which isn't the case.

That software would have to be tailor made for a specific mobo/cpu combination, etc.
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Well obviously 775 chips would never have true "turbo-boost" because it's built into the chip/chipset.

As for software to monitor load and overclock accordingly, I've never seen one but that would be the way to do it. I don't think anyone bothered, they just OC'd and left it(or bought a chip with turbo). The only time I see turboboost being useful is in notebooks which are already limited as far as overclocking/power is concerned.
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Originally Posted by N3C14R View Post

That software would have to be tailor made for a specific mobo/cpu combination, etc.
Right talking to the clock would be the same problem they have with softclocking to begin with. It would have to be talking to different boards different ways.

The "ClockGen" application I have used for this asus P5b board , has always had a "set this clock at windows startup" capability. I have just made a shortcut to do that with a manuel button. so it might be possible to interface to a program that already does the softclock.
still has this huge problem
It is very very slow to change :-(

Rightmarks stepping utility, plus 2 other stepping utilities , will instantally step, but in the opposite direction of my new scheme :-)
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Originally Posted by ColdRush View Post
I don't think anyone bothered, they just OC'd and left it(or bought a chip with turbo). The only time I see turboboost being useful is in notebooks which are already limited as far as overclocking/power is concerned.
I should not bother either it is only a few hundred megs more of speed, and doesnt make that much total difference to the whole computer.
But i have 2 instances where i am thinking about at least manully softchanging it, when gaming, for the extra .05% i would get, and when encoding a few encodes that only fully use 2cores at a time.
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Originally Posted by MR KROGOTH View Post
The entire turbo thing is built inside the processor, therefore eliminating the need to waste processing time on seeing "hmm, am I busy enough to jump a few multi and drop a core?"
I do have the advantage in this example case here, that the processor could probably handle it, but the boards regulation ability cannot (even reworked for cooling) .
It can hold its own for a while, then fails as time goes by, so in the one situation, it is possible that a few miliseconds could pass , before it had to react to it.

Of course unlike todays new boards, it does not have the "Current throttle" at load either, which would also work , so the regulation could handle the loads.
Edited by Psycogeek - 8/18/11 at 6:23am
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