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Hey! First post on Overclock and thought I'd ask you guys a question. I recently got my hands on some money and decided I should completely build a new PC. I have been using the same computer for about 4 years now and quite frankly it is FAR too slow for what I plan on doing in the future. It would barely run Minecraft even, at 30+ frames! I plan on a good deal of video/photo/audio editing and TONS of gaming+recording with FRAPS.

I'm thinking to build a 2500k set up, with a decent GPU that I will upgrade again around Christmas time.

Here were the specs of my old system (some DELL Inspiron. 530 I think):
  • Intel Pentium Dual Core E2180 2.2Ghz
  • 4GB DDR2 800Mhz RAM
  • 320GB 5200RPM HDD (Hitachi?)
  • Cheapy Sub-$50 775 MB
  • 300w PSU

Now here is the possible upgrade:
  • Intel i5 2500k Quad Core 3.3Ghz
  • 4GB DDR3 1600Mhz RAM
  • 1TB 7200 RPM Samsung Spinpoint F3 HDD
  • BIOSTAR TP67B+ P67 MB (I might go ASUS if I get some extra cash)
  • Antec EarthWatts 650w PSU
  • Radeon 5770 GPU

How much of a performance gain will I see, seeing as how I have been stuck with this one forever?
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You will see a HUGE performance game in everything you do, even surfing the web! Check out this flowchart somebody made a couple days ago. I thought it was pretty accurate (I still think Core 2 Quad is better than Pentium Sandy Bridge though). Look how far behind the Pentium Dual Cores are, and how high the i5 Sandy Bridges are.



Plus, here are some benches!
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/68?vs=288
    
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You will gain ALOT with this build.
My suggestion on your build is though, if you can get 8GB of ram, since they are getting cheap and maybe a better gpu (something like 460/560gtx) if your budget allows it.
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You will gain ALOT with this build.
My suggestion on your build is though, if you can get 8GB of ram, since they are getting cheap and maybe a better gpu (something like 460/560gtx) if your budget allows it.
$600 sadly. I pushing it already with what I am building. I might be able to fit that 8Gb in though, but just barely.
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I came from a E8400 and the gain was incredible!!

You can get 8GB DDR3 stupidly cheap now, so you moswell
The Biostar TP67 is a great motherboard and should do you well. If you can stretch to Asus, the UEFI is a dream to work with. Made overclocking much easier for me.

The PSU you chose is decent, but only has 2XPCI-e 6 Pins and non-Modular. Check out the OCZ FATA1iTY 750w which would be slightly more expensive but has 4X 6+2 Pins and is fully modular. (They are the same price in AUS)

The 5770 (I use to own a 5750 ^_^) are great value cards, they clock very well and can handle 1080p with Medium settings just fine. Mine ran 870/1350 24/7 for about 6 months before I got a GTX460 1GB.
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Originally Posted by hojnikb View Post
You will gain ALOT with this build.
My suggestion on your build is though, if you can get 8GB of ram, since they are getting cheap and maybe a better gpu (something like 460/560gtx) if your budget allows it.
This, but the GTX 560 Ti is the card to get. The regular GTX560 is roughly the same as a cheaper GTX460 1GB. So its either the GTX460 1GB, next step up is a GTX470 or GTX560 Ti. Definitely get 8GB of RAM if possible.

And seriously, step up into the Biostar TP67XE board. The cheaper one that you've chosen is okay, but it WILL throttle over about 4.5GHz or so, so that's seriously the most you'll EVER get out of your CPU with that board. The XE is a much stronger board and will pull 5.0GHz+ if your chip can.

EDIT:
Lower down your PSU dude. That'll save you some cash to get a better GPU / motherboard. Something like the Corsair CX430, Antec Neo ECO 400, Antec Earthwatts Green EA430D, Rosewill Green 430....all will power your build easily.
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Go for a gtx460 since your on a budget. They can be found for about 120 these days
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Originally Posted by xBxJxPx View Post
You will see a HUGE performance game in everything you do, even surfing the web! Check out this flowchart somebody made a couple days ago. I thought it was pretty accurate (I still think Core 2 Quad is better than Pentium Sandy Bridge though). Look how far behind the Pentium Dual Cores are, and how high the i5 Sandy Bridges are.



Plus, here are some benches!
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/68?vs=288
Ehem....
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/53?vs=406

My Pentium G620 (cheapest and lowest-end of the newer Pentiums) can meet or in most cases exceed the Q6600 (lowest end of the Core2Quads). Newer Pentiums kick butt.

In the comparison between the Pentium G850 (the big dawg of the pentiums) and the Core2Quad Q9650) the difference is minimal.

Think about this. A $100 ish dollar Pentium vs the Monster of a Core2Quad and the Pentium is able to hold its own.

Sandy Bridge Rocks.
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So what I am getting from you guys so far:

Lower PSU (around 400w-ish)
Get a better MB
GTX 460/560 (probably can only fit 460)
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So what I am getting from you guys so far:

Lower PSU (around 400w-ish)
Get a better MB
GTX 460/560 (probably can only fit 460)
Yes, but keep the PSU a good quality one.

The GTX460 1GB can be had for around $110-120 if you check the refurbished and Open Box cards on newegg.

For the PSU, the 4 I recommended earlier will all be great units, just pick the cheaper one out of those 4.
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