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yeah, if you think relatively, the heat and pressure within a candle flame would be enough to create a very very very very very small diamond.
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post #12 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by dzalias;14628042 
You'd just have to put the candle in the freezer and freeze the flame.

Give candle to jewllers.
???
Profit.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vagrant Storm;14628626 
It is a nano particle of carbon...if it was bigger it would be diamond, graphite, or graphine. They all have the same building block of a sinlge atom of carbon. So basically they call it whatever they want...they just found pieces of carbon that are few atoms big. Diamond is just catchy and noticable.

The article doesn't say what the mass of the "nano particles" are or any clue to how big they are.

No--you can't call it whatever you want. Yes, they're all built off of carbon, but various carbon materials have very different crystal/lattice structures--hence why they all have very different physical appearances, different physical properties, and different classifications of material. What they found were very, very, very small samples that were composed of the same basic unit cell that macro-scale diamond is composed of--which also makes them diamonds. If they found fullerene sub-structures, they're fullerenes. Not diamonds. If they found amorphous carbon, it's amorphous carbom--not diamonds.

This is pretty neat. It was always fun to think about how diamond is an thermodynamically-unfavorable structure, which technically makes it unstable from a chemical reaction perspective, yet diamonds are said to "last forever." It's true, because the decomposition, while energetically-favorable, is extremely kinetically slow. Just something fun to think about.
    
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so... next time I give my GF a present, i give her a candle?

Wonder if she falls for that...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vagrant Storm;14628486 
Well this should be true of any smoke...smoke from organic material anyway. There is carbon in that smoke and carbon without anything attached to it is diamond.

Actually I believe the smallest possible diamond is something like 14 carbon atoms in a specific structure.

Carbon without anything attached is carbon.

Carbon 12 (most common):
carbon-atom-diagram-2.jpg

Diamond, each black dot is equivalent to the image above:
diamond.GIF
Edited by lordikon - 8/18/11 at 11:35am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by guyladouche;14629721 
It was always fun to think about how diamond is an thermodynamically-unfavorable structure, which technically makes it unstable from a chemical reaction perspective, yet diamonds are said to "last forever." It's true, because the decomposition, while energetically-favorable, is extremely kinetically slow. Just something fun to think about.

This is the case with most things in life. Wood is thermodynamically unfavorable, just look at all the energy released when you break it down (burn it). The reason it doesn't spontaneously combust is because the activation energy to start the process is too high. But once you kick start it the wood will keep burning until it is gone.

It's kind of like a glass sitting on the edge of a table, yes gravity would prefer it to be on the floor but it's not going to get there unless it gets some help.
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Originally Posted by Arthedes;14630073 
so... next time I give my GF a present, i give her a candle?

Wonder if she falls for that...

Girls don't even like manmade diamonds even though they are more pure... The diamond industry has successfully brainwashed people to think that a diamond dug out of the ground with small impurities in it is actually better than a 100% pure artificial diamond. A jeweler can tell that a diamond is fake because it doesn't have crap in it when looked at under magnification...

Just do what I did and show your girlfriend the movie "blood diamond ". It's about how many of the worlds diamonds are dug up by slaves and have a bloody history before they become part of jewelry. My GF was all about fake diamonds after that. Lol.
Edited by Epitope - 8/18/11 at 11:37am
    
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so... next time I give my GF a present, i give her a candle?

Wonder if she falls for that...

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Professor Wuzong Zhou, Professor of Chemistry at the University of St Andrews has discovered tiny diamond particles exist in candle flames. His research has made a scientific leap towards solving a mystery which has befuddled people for thousands of years. Since the first candle was invented in ancient China more than 2,000 years ago, many have longed to know what hidden secrets its flames contained.
Dr Zhou’s investigation revealed around 1.5 million diamond nanoparticles are created every second in a candle flame as it burns.

Why and who longed to know what hidden secrets its flames contained?
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I am beginning to think that everyone who posts in the news forum gets their news from reddit.... hmmm.
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