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[bsn*] NVIDIA GeForce 600 Series: 28nm, OEM-only Fermi Refresh?

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Over the past couple of weeks, we spoke with multiple sources in the NVIDIA ecosystem, who are hearing that NVIDIA is ready to hit the silicon production with TSMC's 28nm process.
"We have working silicon and, momentarily, about to go to production with 28-nanometer. And it's looking really good, it's looking much, much better than our experience with 40-nanometer. It's just a comprehensive, across-the-board engagement between TSMC and ourselves, and making sure that we're ready for production ramp when the time comes. So I feel really good about 28."
The quote above comes from the co-founder and CEO of NVIDIA, Jen-Hsun Huang from the the recent transcript of the 2Q FY 2012 conference call. There was one thing omitted though - those initial parts are not based on Kepler architecture.

According to our sources, the company will repeat the strategy from previous architectures (G80-G9x, GT200-GT21X) and introduce a limited number of die-shrunk Fermi-based parts which are to be used for process optimization.
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The parts are planned for introduction for this years' holiday season.
The media needs to make up their mind on this.
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I guess "Holiday" means Q1 2012 to some lol
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This makes some sense with the supposed rumors of problems they're having with Keplar. Maybe they'll just do a die shrink of what already works to work into it, and then make the new architecture on it later, much like Intel does in their model. Perhaps the GeForce 600 series will be another GeForce 300 series then. With the rate they're burning through the hundreds naming scheme, they'll need a new format or be into the thousands real soon...
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Nvidia's looking really unsure of themselves lately. Hope they don't release a stinker of a card and or a refresh of Fermi with a "20%" performance boost
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Another refresh? :v
I guess they can up the clocks a fair bit with the die shrink.. If this turns out to be true then I guess maybe they're doing this to "test" the 28nm process like AMD did with the 4700 series and 40nm?
    
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This makes some sense with the supposed rumors of problems they're having with Keplar. Maybe they'll just do a die shrink of what already works to work into it, and then make the new architecture on it later, much like Intel does in their model. Perhaps the GeForce 600 series will be another GeForce 300 series then. With the rate they're burning through the hundreds naming scheme, they'll need a new format or be into the thousands real soon...
This I'd agree with only...The rumors aren't nearly that extreme...It's simply they're having "some issues" or "slight setbacks"...It's not, we're sidestepping for something else just yet.

It'll be interesting to see what happens, that's for sure.
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Sounds pretty standard. ATi And Nvidia usually push out entry level, OEM only cards to field test new processes 6 months before the "real deal". As these chips have much less transistors, and subsequently much smaller dies, they cram more dies into each wafer and retrieve more perfectly functional chips to salvage even if a wafer has a high error rate.

So probably going to be same as 520 and 530, just die shrunk, but (mostly) only available to OEM's. Sounds like Nvidia was right about no kepler this year. Even if this is a fermi launch repeat, at least they're being more direct about whats going on as opposed to tight lips and false promises.
    
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I am not allowed to state more at this time but rest assured you will see both GTX600 and GTX700 variants in the upcoming generation of 28nm GPUs.
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I am not allowed to state more at this time but rest assured you will see both GTX600 and GTX700 variants in the upcoming generation of 28nm GPUs.
what ARE you allowed to say
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