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I think what Open1 meant was that we will see GTX 600 first and then GTX 700 (If they decide to name them these) but GTX 700 probably running on the Kepler architecture and GTX 600 on Fermi as the article says, I presume.
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it's times like this that it's best you don't state anything.
I guess I should probably rephrase that. What I meant was that both GTX600 and GTX700 series will use 28nm GPUs (in case anyone had any doubts). I am not allowed to state if they will be the same or not but I am sure many of you can take a hint from previous generations. I hope that clarifies what I meant.
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I guess I should probably rephrase that. What I meant was that both GTX600 and GTX700 series will use 28nm GPUs (in case anyone had any doubts). I am not allowed to state if they will be the same or not but I am sure many of you can take a hint from previous generations. I hope that clarifies what I meant.
Of course they are going to use the 28nm GPU Process. They are after all going to be more than simply a Die-Shrink and will likely entail a new architecture. They wouldn't remain at the 40nm process and let AMD release first to the market with 28nm.
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I guess I should probably rephrase that. What I meant was that both GTX600 and GTX700 series will use 28nm GPUs (in case anyone had any doubts). I am not allowed to state if they will be the same or not but I am sure many of you can take a hint from previous generations. I hope that clarifies what I meant.
Thanks sir.

I'm on 570 SLI thinking of surround (2560x1600 currently, looking at going 5760x1200), seems like a lousy spot to be in since I'd want more for surround, which would mean new cards when these others are coming "soon(tm)" and unknown completely. I hear that 1536mb on the GTX 580's runs fine though with 5760x1200 so long as you don't pump AA, so I'm wondering if I might squeak by with my 570's trying that... at 1280mb.

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Of course they are going to use the 28nm GPU Process. They are after all going to be more than simply a Die-Shrink and will likely entail a new architecture. They wouldn't remain at the 40nm process and let AMD release first to the market with 28nm.
It now sounds to me like it may be that the 6xx series is a die shrink, and the 7xx will be the new architecture... guess we'll see!
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post #34 of 97
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It was a very wise decision to wait, but how could I have predicted that the 590 was gonna be a terrible card, Kepler was gonna be delayed (despite what the CEO initially said), and that there's a good chance that the 680 might be an immature undeveloped card that doesn't even fully utilize the tech?????
I had a similar luck of the draw. Back in late 2007 and very very early 2008, I held off on a GeForce 8800 GT, the card to get at the time, and grabbed a cheap GeForce 8600 GTS as a stopgap card (since I had none and needed something halfway decent/better than my previous GeForce 6800 GS AGP). I was intending on going with the GeForce 9 series since it was right around the corner. It ended up being basically a GeForce 8800, so I just ended up grabbing a GeForce 8800 GT in the end.
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I had a similar luck of the draw. Back in late 2007 and very very early 2008, I held off on a GeForce 8800 GT, the card to get at the time, and grabbed a cheap GeForce 8600 GTS as a stopgap card (since I had none and needed something halfway decent/better than my previous GeForce 6800 GS AGP). I was intending on going with the GeForce 9 series since it was right around the corner. It ended up being basically a GeForce 8800, so I just ended up grabbing a GeForce 8800 GT in the end.
you were very lucky, 9 series wasnt that impressing, 9800vs8800 are pretty the same, with the 9 series winning by less than 10 fps
    
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I take it the 680's gonna struggle and the 780's gonna fix all the problems just like the 580 did with the 480

Man, it seems like I'm NEVER gonna buy a video card. I keep waiting for this 28NM crap to come out and now I'm probably gonna wait another 8 months after the 600 series is released just to buy the proper fully working version of Kepler. And when that happens DX12 cards will probably come out 8 months after that. God, screw me and this stupid video card business.

I was planning on getting a 580 then said screw it I'll by the 590 or the 6990, they're gonna come out only several months later. When it turns out the 590 can't overclock for crap and the 6990 is a leaf blower, I gotta wait for fricken Kepler or to come out (which will probably be released a full year after the 590 was). And if it turns out that the 680 sucks and it's a "tester" card like the 480 was then I gotta wait another 6-8 months so Nvidia can work out all the kinks and release the 780.

Can a guy ever catch a fricken' break????????
lol, all you just said was I telling myself during the last month, yesterday I went out and bought a 580 Lighting to upgrade from my 460GTX 1GB..
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I guess I should probably rephrase that. What I meant was that both GTX600 and GTX700 series will use 28nm GPUs (in case anyone had any doubts). I am not allowed to state if they will be the same or not but I am sure many of you can take a hint from previous generations. I hope that clarifies what I meant.
Sounds likes the GTX600s will be like the 300s, more mainstream OEM cards, and the GTX700s the consumer cards. That actually sounds like a good business strategy to me OEM cards, consumer, refresh of consumer, repeat.
The OEMs don't care about getting upgraded cards as often, and the consumer cards get nice performance boosts in the refresh.
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Another refresh? :v
I guess they can up the clocks a fair bit with the die shrink.. If this turns out to be true then I guess maybe they're doing this to "test" the 28nm process like AMD did with the 4700 series and 40nm?
it's time for another round of 8800gt 9800gt gt240 ???
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I was looking to SLI my GTX 570 early next year but decided today that I would either get the 570 equivalent of the Kepler series or sell my current 570 to get an even better card. Considering that I'm working off of my first build and I'm not really that knowledgeable about the trends Nvidia went with with the 300, 400, and 500, this news makes everything more confusing. Should I go with the 600 series or just wait for the 700 series?

EDIT: Better question is, how long should I expect to wait for the 700 to be released after the 600 series?
Edited by uA- - 8/18/11 at 4:23pm
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EDIT: Better question is, how long should I expect to wait for the 700 to be released after the 600 series?
The 480 was released in March and the 580 in November (8 months).

So maybe we'll start seeing Nvidia's next non-crap, non-garbage, enthusiast-worthy card sometime in Q4 2012
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