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Cool thanks so much for the info bahamut +1

For the assembly however, is it a good idea to assemble the mobo, PSU and CPU outside the case and make sure it boots (with the screw driver trick)? Or should I just install it for the first time in the case? (I heard it's bad luck to put the side panel back on before it successfully boots.. :O )
He misinformed you. he explained response times when you asked about refresh rates. You were right in assuming that the refresh rate determines your FPS cap with vsync enabled.
    
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lol yep always start by touching the inside of the case to ground yourself and sure feel free to add me on steam

heres a link to my steam id page: http://steamcommunity.com/id/zerobahamut
Wow sweet steam game page. Thats like 6 times my total game library xD

Maybe we could work out a trade in the future
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get a better webcam,harddrive, and keyboard...
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Also excuse my noobishness but I've always wondered. WTH is vertical sync and why did it always **** up my WoW (back when I used to play).
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post #25 of 35
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get a better webcam,harddrive, and keyboard...
Whats wrong with the HD? Also can you recommend a better keyboard (I want something with slim keys, similar to a mac and/or laptop). Webcam I don't really care about. It's one of those things where I want to have it but I will infrequently use it.
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post #26 of 35
Built my first computer too, check my system info. It's a hunka junk but i like it :3.
post #27 of 35
heres the info on the refresh rate sorry about that misunderstood thanks xPrestonn for picking that up:

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The higher the refresh rate, the less image flicker you will notice on the screen. Typically a refresh rate of less than 60 Hz will produce noticeable flicker, meaning you can tell the screen is being redrawn instead of seeing a constant image. If the refresh rate is too slow, this flicker can be hard on your eyes and may cause them to tire quickly. As if sitting at a computer for several hours wasn't hard enough!

The maximum refresh rate is determined by three factors: 1) The rate your video card supports, 2) the rate your monitor supports, and 3) the resolution your monitor is set at. Lower resolutions (i.e. 800x600) typically support higher refresh rates than higher resolutions (i.e. 1600x1200).
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Just to give you an idea thats why for 3d monitors such a high refresh rate is needed as it is trying to produce two images at once to reduce any signs of flicker and provide an accurate representation of a 3 dimensional image. Gamers use 120hz monitors not just for 3d content, but for general gaming because of the high refresh rate. Think in terms of playing a game: the more FPS and the more defined the movement is; the more noticeable it will be with fast moving images produced from games.
Edited by zerobahamut - 8/18/11 at 11:19pm
 
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post #28 of 35
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Can anyone help me out with my two above questions?
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post #29 of 35
As far as vertical sync is concerned,

Vertical sync is to prevent screen tearing. Heres a definition of what screen tearing is :

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Screen tearing is a visual artifact in video where information from two or more different frames is shown in a display device in a single screen draw.
The artifact occurs when the video feed sent to the device isn't in sync with the display's refresh, be it due to non-matching refresh rates, or simply lack of sync between the two. During video motion, screen tearing creates a torn look as edges of objects (such as a wall or a tree) fail to line up.

Tearing can occur with most common display technologies and video cards, and is most noticeable on situations where horizontally-moving visuals are commonly found, such as in slow camera pans in a movie, or classic side-scrolling video games.
So what vertical sync effectivley does is it will use the video card to prevent the monitor from displaying any artifacts by telling the monitor to almost halt until the monitors refresh cycle is complete. While it is in that freeze state it will try to use the method of double buffering, which will try to rapidly copy the off-screen graphics area into the active display area

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Id say while WoW was trying to use your vsync it was prolly making you lag like hell upping your ping as well
Edited by zerobahamut - 8/18/11 at 11:28pm
 
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post #30 of 35
for slim keys check out this razer keyboard has good reviews

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16823114010

cant comment myself about it though never owned a razer keyboard, personally im a logitech guy
 
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