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Originally Posted by Hukkel View Post
Biased reply is biased.

In terms of outright BETTER an awesome quality set of headphones will always beat a headset because you can get them up to a few 1000$ a set and headsets are usually produced for a certain consumer in mind. It's completely bollocks to assume every headphones are awesome and every headset is really bad. And about the KDR: I knew people that played Metal Gear Online that could tell where people were walking when he was a floor under them. Pinpoints the exact room. If you learn to use it, it'll actually help. But like everything practice makes perfect.

A reply like that isn't helpfull to anyone and is as fanboy as people drooling over their Turtle Beach.

So to answer your question: NO headsets won't always be better than headphones and in a lot of cases it's the other way around. But if you have a specific budget and a specific demand then a headset CAN be right for you.
All "gaming" branded headset that the typical consumer will buy are overpriced, every single one.
Basically, what we try to do is save the average person from wasting their money. Instead, showing them that high quality phones can be had for a fraction of the price of the usual headset.
The consumer that the headset is marketed to is the uninformed one, and we aim to fix that by letting them know their options. Pointing them towards phones that blow the sound quality out of the headset out of the water.

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It's not a troll.

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All right, I'm not talking about a headset. Nothing with a mic. I'm talking about listening to music and for gaming (but not talking), etc.

I'm not really sure about the right terminology but I'm talking about over-the-ear and in-ear headphones. Say if each were $150, would the over-the-ear headphones be necessarily better than the in-ear? Or not so?
I see what you mean, you are referring to ear buds vs. headphones.

In that case, headphones will generally be better, but there are some high quality ear buds out there too.
Headphones have larger drivers, and are capable of having a larger soundstage and more quality sound.
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post #12 of 29
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I see what you mean, you are referring to ear buds vs. headphones.

In that case, headphones will generally be better, but there are some high quality ear buds out there too.
Headphones have larger drivers, and are capable of having a larger soundstage and more quality sound.
This.
Dont discount earbuds though. There are a few pairs that would really surprise you, and even some with a decent soundstage (weirdly)
post #13 of 29
Earbuds/Earphones: the small ones that stick into your ear (e.g. the apple ones)

HeadPHONES: two drivers (speakers) that cover your ear (doesn't always have to be surrounding it, some sit on top of your ear) and are connected by a strap which sits on your head. (e.g. the fat Beats by Dr. Dre)

HeadSET: same as headphones except a mic is designed into them. Members here tend to recommend you stay away from these because most of them are overpriced for their quality.
post #14 of 29
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Originally Posted by Grief View Post
All "gaming" branded headset that the typical consumer will buy are overpriced, every single one.
Basically, what we try to do is save the average person from wasting their money. Instead, showing them that high quality phones can be had for a fraction of the price of the usual headset.
The consumer that the headset is marketed to is the uninformed one, and we aim to fix that by letting them know their options. Pointing them towards phones that blow the sound quality out of the headset out of the water.
Not everyone on here is a PC gamer or audiophile and not everyone had the budget to buy an headphones amp + headphones + mic. Some people are just sick of their TV speakers and bluetooth or USB earpiece and want something that will up both of them. So saying headsets are **** as a fact is just not true. It all depends on what you're looking for and what you budget is. But if ones goal is to get the best sound available then no headsets are not the direction they must be pointed towards.
 
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I'll stick to speakers, thanks jk
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post #16 of 29
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Not everyone on here is a PC gamer or audiophile and not everyone had the budget to buy an headphones amp + headphones + mic. Some people are just sick of their TV speakers and bluetooth or USB earpiece and want something that will up both of them. So saying headsets are **** as a fact is just not true. It all depends on what you're looking for and what you budget is. But if ones goal is to get the best sound available then no headsets are not the direction they must be pointed towards.
I rarely recommend an amp as well, amps are only necessary for high end headphones that have high impedance. If you are willing to buy headphones that require an amp, then you probably can afford the amp as well.

I keep saying this, but you can get a headphone + mic combo for cheaper then a headset, and the sound quality will be much better. You can find people components for 100 dollars, or for less then 50, and either way they will be satisfied.

I can agree that there are certain situations that require a headset. Like they want it to be wireless, work on xbox & PS3, and call their grandma with them. In that case, I don't think sound quality or price is a top priority anyways.
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Let me start with this, I do NOT play Waw wow wuw or any other spelling of world of suck you in-craft.

I do like wireless though.. anyone tried the wireless WOW head phones?
or some similar/ better ones?



Some searching turned up this:

Hmm they are made by logitech and are more functional...

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If there's anything I've learnt in buying headphones and audio related gear, it's that you should never buy anything aimed at a specific market. Anything labelled with "gaming" (Turtle Beach, Tritton, etc) or advertised towards a specific game or group of people tends to be a poorer quality product than other alternatives, although there are some exceptions. It's pretty much common knowledge though, you guys probably know already.
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I can agree that there are certain situations that require a headset. Like they want it to be wireless, work on xbox & PS3, and call their grandma with them. In that case, I don't think sound quality or price is a top priority anyways.
mah mimah has a deep voice mang, you need good headphones for that.

What I wonder is though. Why can't these companies that make these good headphones also create something for the gamer? It doesn't have to be flashy, it just needs to work well. Why do they not incorporate a good mic with a good headphones and make it work? Everyone knows 90% of all consumers want to be spoon-fed stuff. They don't want something with 17 buttons, 6 sliders and a dozen in- and outputs. They just wanna be like: "me gamer, you maky headset for me". If what you say is true then why do only crappy companies understand this and not the companies that make good quality stuff?
 
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What I wonder is though. Why can't these companies that make these good headphones also create something for the gamer? It doesn't have to be flashy, it just needs to work well. Why do they not incorporate a good mic with a good headphones and make it work? Everyone knows 90% of all consumers want to be spoon-fed stuff. They don't want something with 17 buttons, 6 sliders and a dozen in- and outputs. They just wanna be like: "me gamer, you maky headset for me". If what you say is true then why do only crappy companies understand this and not the companies that make good quality stuff?
This is all my speculation, no actual facts, but I think it's because gamers are a small market that's hard to compete in. Headphones are far more versatile because you decide if you want a mic and the price is lower when mics aren't included. The gamers that actually care about sound quality will find the headphones and buy a mic.
The casual gamer either gets his headset as a birthday gift or buys them at Walmart. They want something that says "gamer" and "awesome" on the box, has BS features ("macro buttons and voice morphing!!!") and it has to be available in all major stores or they won't find them. And even after making sure all that's taken care of, gamers are probably still a smaller market than people who need headphones for music and they've all heard about companies that are already known for gaming gear, like Turtle Beach, Creative, Steelseries and Astro Gaming. They don't care as much about sound quality as about "what the pros use".
Rather make high-end stuff for those that appreciate it (and pay for it) than appeal to gamers. The target group of your suggested product is only a fraction of gamers.

This is of course a generalization, but look at this thread. What are people advising others to buy? Headphones and desk/clip-on mics, because it works.
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