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post #1 of 12
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Hello there

so I've been reading about WC the last few weeks and now I’m ready to buy the parts. But I'm having a hard time deciding on some of the parts so I hope you guys could help me.

I'm going to cool my I7-920 and 2x EVGA GTX 580 HC 2.

1. I've mostly been looking at the Swiftech Apogee XT (Rev 2) would that be fine together with 2x EVGA's because of the mid/high restrictiveness or should I go with the Koolance cpu 370?

2. Which pump should i chose either the MCP35x or the MCP655 for this setup? And which of the ports on the MCP35x is outlet?

3. Going with the HW-Labs black ice 360 for now if I'm not happy with the temps I’ll get a second on later on or should i get the 360 and a 120 or 240 now to save me some work later?

4. Would 6x Gentle Typhoon 1850rpm in push/pull be enough with this rad or should i get the Gentle Typhoon HS 3000rpm and a fan controller so I have the option for more rpm if the temps aren’t good enough. I have been thinking of buying one of each to hear the difference in loudness at same rpm since i would like the build to be somewhat quiet.


Thinks that’s all hope you guys can help me out and thanks in advance

****Update****

Okay so I've been going through a lot of different parts and options the last couple of days.

I'll get

CPU: Watercool Heatkiller Rev3.0 Black Chrome edition.
Rads: 2x XSPC RX360 with GT's 1850
GPU: 2x EVGA 580 Hydro Copper

I got 2 questions.
1: Will the Swiftech MCP655 with EK D5 X Rev.2 Top be enough to run this? or should I go with the Swiftech MCP35X instead?

2: How much of an improvement will i get by running the GT's in Push/Pull? Rather than just going either pull or push?
Edited by Unframed - 8/24/11 at 4:24am
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1. I would get the Koolance CPU 370.

2. I would get the MCP355 with an XSPC aftermarket top. Like http://www.xs-pc.com/products/laing-...c-acrylic-top/ or http://www.xs-pc.com/products/laing-...for-laing-ddc/ that has the res.

3. The more rad the better. What rads can your case support? If so, I would get a thickish 360 and 240

4. The GT's with a fan controller will be excellent. Fan Speeds depend on your rads FPI I believe (Fins per inch).
Edited by Nynn - 8/19/11 at 4:22am
post #3 of 12
1. i recommend the ek supreme HF, performs better than the both those blocks and has less restriction... i had an apogee xt rev2 and switched to the ek supreme HF due to the flow improvement and slight temp improvements
2. i vote for mcp655 since i have 2 and they are almost dead silent at their highest setting (really i recommend the mcp655-b since its cheaper and i leave my mcp655's at full speed anyways)
3. your setup could be cooled with a 360 but i would spring for the 360+240 if you have room/money! i know i did and im only running 3x5870's and a phenom II 965be
4. depends... which black ice are you getting? gtx? gts? sr-1? as long as your FPI is lower than say 15 you can just get plain ol' 1850rpm's... over 15 fpi you will want higher rpm fans but even GT's at 1850 are noticable (its not bad at all but if you a stickler for quiet then you will notice them)
Edited by twich12 - 8/19/11 at 4:23am
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Hey guys thanks for the quick replies.

At the moment my Haf X will be able to hold a 360 at the top and a 120 in the back without modding. I don't really have any tools to do any modding to place a 240 in the bottom so I would have to mount it outside the case in the back. I would really like to keep the WC inside the case but would a 240 mounted outside in the back be a big hassle for when let’s say going to a LAN or something like that?


Thinking about getting the Black Ice GTX 360
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post #5 of 12
Black Ice GTX 360

20FPI

2-row 19.0 x 1.2mm Tubes

133 x 397 x 54 mm

With that FPI, you need high speed fans. Yate Loon High Speed Fans are cheap. GT's are expensive, if you want to pay for them.

Mounting on the exterior shouldn't cause too much problems, but you should avoid too much rough handling
post #6 of 12
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I've been reading the reviews on skinneelabs and he says that fans on 1800 rmp and above the GTX 360 wins maybe even a bit lower rpm if you look at the charts. So if I run the GT's at full speed it should be okay or would it be better to get a diffrent rad with the GT's? (1850rpm GT's)
Edited by Unframed - 8/19/11 at 5:08am
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post #7 of 12
i say for the pump get the mcp35x and aftermarket top and you'll be fine.my mcp350 with ek x top gives me good flow and i have 3 rad's cpu block and gpu block.
for a 360 rad i say get this http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/xsrx3xrare2.html

has 8FPI so that means low rpm fans
3 rows of 13mm by 2mm Tubes

as for the 240 rad.you can mount it against the hdd cage?

like this?
post #8 of 12
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Think i'll have some problems fitting the rad with fans in that position.

I'm leaning more and more to a low FPI rad so my system can be more quiet. Altough at the moment my 2x Zalman gtx 480 coolers is stuck at 2500rpm and its pretty noisy so anything below that would be awesome.
But i guess I'll have to get a 360 and a 240 if I want the low FPI rad to be able to cool my I7 and 2x gtx 580?

I dont really mind the noise when I'm gaming since I'll either have my headset on or my speakers running. But it would be nice to have a quiet system for when I'm not having my headset on or speakers running
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post #9 of 12
360 and 240 rad seems like enough.but if you dont mind the noise then get high fpi rad's with high speed fans to get the best performance.
post #10 of 12
Wow you have only been reading two weeks and you are ready for H2O? There is so much information out there; I would spend more time reading. HW GTX takes over in terms of thermal performance around 1500 rpm by a small margin. The GTs will be ok on that radiator, but you won't be able to run them at much slower speed. Good luck finding the fans in stock for anything less than 25 USD.

As far as pumps go, a D5 should be plenty. If you go DDC, make sure you invest in a heatsink. Those pumps are known for overheating and failing. As far as high end CPU blocks go, it really does not matter what you choose, as long as it is not an EK nickel blocks. The EK nickel plated blocks are known for having corrosion issues.
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