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Hello,

I've been trying for a while to OC my Gigabyte AGP HD4650 Card (GV-R465D2-1GI), however been unable to. Was using 9.66 Catalyst drivers from Gigabyte since the ones from AMD didn't work, no Overdrive appeared and none of the OC software worked.

Yesterday I upgraded to the 11.8 Official AGP drivers and to my amazement they actually worked, but still no Overdrive.

The problems with the OC'ing software are as follows:

AMD GPU Tool crashes on startup with an error from Visual C++ Studio.

MSI Afterburner shows the default frequencies as the maximum values.

ATI Tray Tools actually lets me to try changing values but has trouble detecting the correct ones, and when I try to change any (even by 1 MHz) the drivers crash and the screen shows a ton of artifacts.

RivaTuner says I have unsupported drivers and doesn't even give me over-clocking options.

All these problems happen with both drivers.

My computer is:

Motherboard: HP 085CH
CPU: Pentium 4 3.0GHZ HT (HT is off)
RAM: 1.62GB DDR
GPU: Gigabyte ATI HD4650 (GV-R465D2-1GI) with 11.8

Windows XP SP3 with all updates (including .net stuff)

I haven't tried the bios over-clocking since I don't know safe values to pick.

Thanks in advance.
Edited by kernl - 8/19/11 at 4:55am
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I've owned the Club3D HD4670 AGP, some people here have the 4650 AGP too. You should drop by the P4 owners thread in my sig - while it's primarily about CPUs, we discuss pretty much everything about the rigs that house them as well. We might be able to offer you advice regarding your rig, if any problems arise.

Now, however, I'll tell you this:
Do NOT overclock your card.
There is simply NO POINT WHATSOEVER in doing it. Your CPU already massively bottlenecks its performance; there is simply no point in going further on the GPU. Overclock that Pentium instead.

If you insist on continuing this pointless endeavor, though, I suggest you try out the 10.4 or the 10.7 drivers. If those don't work - 9.12 (IIRC. Or was it 9.10?). These are regarded as pretty decent ones for these overkill AGP cards. While you probably won't be able to use the AMD catalyst OC utilities, ATI Tray Tools might start working properly, though don't quote me on that.

Still, though, I fail to see the point in OCing the card. Have you ever checked the GPU usage during gaming?

Also, turn HT on. Without HT, these old P4 systems get unbearably slow at multitasking. It's especially clear nowadays. I've even benched my 3.4GHz HT Northwood with and without HT - HT ON gave me approx. 30% more performance over HT OFF (you won't notice it during games, though ).


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Thanks alot for the reply,

As for your sugestions I have problems with those, mainly because of my motherboard, which is an HP and so Locked against OC'ing. As for the HT, when I turn the Hyperthreading ON on the bios, it crashes. Yes, you read right, the bios crashes. It's the latest version of the bios too.

EDIT: Well, it seems the bios didn't crash, it simply showed a blank screen by bug, and it was probably saying something like "press F10 to confirm" and I pressed it and suddenly it saved.
Edited by kernl - 8/19/11 at 9:34am
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I think AGP cards canot be OC'd, or at least not so easily (might be wrong tho, never tried too hard). I tried OCing with several utitlities an Nvidia 6200 GT and several ATI Radeon 9200 on 2 different mobos to no avail.

As Hyoketsu said, that card will be severely bottlenecked by the CPU, so OCing will yield no benefits and might only be for bragging rights, or if you want your room a bit hotter on winter

To support HT i'd try reverting to one or two older BIOS versions. Had an issue like that on an HP mobo which, when i turned HT on, the CPU would work with HT but at 1.5 GHz. Reverted to one earlier version and worked.
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AGP cards sure can be OCed - I did precisely that on my old Radeon 9600 PRO and I'm certainly not the only one. Not sure why your attempts failed
     
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I think AGP cards canot be OC'd, or at least not so easily (
nope
they can
although over volt'ing them is hard
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AGP cards sure can be OCed - I did precisely that on my old Radeon 9600 PRO and I'm certainly not the only one. Not sure why your attempts failed
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nope
they can
although over volt'ing them is hard
Then i was either too noob, or my cards were real OC bricks.
   
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Well overclocked that card to 680/550 from stock 600/400 and it's working fine - used catalyst 12.1 and ati tray tool with software clock reading method. in xp it's simple, but in vista or win7 you have to run 3D application(i used performance test) to change GPU or mem clock or it's gonn be blank screen...
So it is finally possible to overclock that card.. smile.gif
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