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580 now, Keplar if you need it later
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Originally Posted by Vagrant Storm View Post

Personally...if you are iching for kepler I'd do the 560ti. They can handle pretty much any game at 1080p at higher than average settings. I didn't want to wait around so I got a 580 that I saw come my way at a good price. Honestly, I don't know if I will ever SLI it. it has enough power on its own at 1080p. I think I will need to upgrade to multiple monitors before I'll "need" to add another 580...(you need SLI to use surround view). By the time a lone 580 can't handle higher than average settings it will be time to get a whole new GPU. The new game releases don't really require that much GPU power these days when compared to older/existing games...though (hopefully?) that might change one of these days. Metro 2033 is pretty much the only exception and has become the new "Crysis"...however, even on high settings the game is fine.
I agree with Vagrant. Based on your needs and plans for upgrading to Kepler later on, I think a 560 Ti would actually be perfect for you (especially at 1080p).

The 1GB frame buffer shouldn't be a major bottleneck in the immediate future (certainly not before Kepler is released anyway) and the 560 Ti can handle most titles at that res comfortably. If you still want more power, there's always SLI, which would be significantly faster than a 580 for roughly the same price.

I'd grab a 560 Ti Hawk from MSI or a Direct CU2 from Asus. Aside from being great cards in their own right, those brands tend to hold their resale value a bit better because of their serial number based warranties.
post #53 of 61
Single, powerful 580 now, second one later. Even if it's not as refined as Kepler, look at the current Fermi's. GTX 480's, overclocked, can edge out stock 580's. Which is saying a lot considering they don't use "that" much more power, and are around the $300 mark.
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And it takes 3 580's to beat 3 6970's. Whats your point? the 6970 certainly doesn't do better, if it did you wouldn't need 3 of them to out perform 2 580's.

Obviously the op can afford a GTX580. Then why would he get the "lesser" card, the HD6950 or 6970?For those of us who don't want to sacrifice the best performer for the AMD cards "the better choice for the cash" would gladly pick the 580. Seriously your logic is flawed, how does 3 cards vs 2 cards sound right to you? Two of AMD's top cards cant keep up with 2 of nVidia's top cards? So you need to add a third one? All you are doing is trying to keep up the fanboy $hit and keep AMD's lesser cards in the game.
What? Need I remind you of 5870s vs 285s? Being a fanboy of either side is stupid(you seem to be a fan boy). Also, I spend less for more performance all in all. 3 cards for the same price as 2 is fair.
    
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What? Need I remind you of 5870s vs 285s? Being a fanboy of either side is stupid(you seem to be a fan boy). Also, I spend less for more performance all in all. 3 cards for the same price as 2 is fair.
Quality over Quantity.

AMD HD 6970 = Nissan GT-R
Nvidia GTX 580 = Porsche 911 Turbo

Not everyone cares if 3 AMD cards are cheaper and can beat 2 Nvidia cards. Some people want the best performance out of 1 Card, not 2 or 3 cards. SLI/Crossfire on lesser cards is a cheaper way of reaching the speed of a single high end card. Why do you think everyone compares a SLI setup to a GTX 580? You're a fanboy just like everyone else.....hypocrite.
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Quality over Quantity.

AMD HD 6970 = Nissan GT-R
Nvidia GTX 580 = Porsche 911 Turbo

Not everyone cares if 3 AMD cards are cheaper and can beat 2 Nvidia cards. Some people want the best performance out of 1 Card, not 2 or 3 cards. SLI/Crossfire on lesser cards is a cheaper way of reaching the speed of a single high end card. Why do you think everyone compares a SLI setup to a GTX 580? You're a fanboy just like everyone else.....hypocrite.
I'm not a fanboy. I own nVidia cards, I want to hope back on with the 6xx series, and I recommend them at price points.
    
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I'm not a fanboy. I own nVidia cards, I want to hope back on with the 6xx series, and I recommend them at price points.
C'mon, everyone is a fanboy to at least 1 brand. Nothing to be ashamed of lol. I'm a Nvidia, AMD CPU, Asus fanboy
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C'mon, everyone is a fanboy to at least 1 brand. Nothing to be ashamed of lol. I'm a Nvidia, AMD CPU, Asus fanboy
I'm a fanboy to Price. I will literally buy anything if it does the best for the cash. I recommend the 460 all the time cause it's great in those terms. Brand means nothing to me, it's price that does.
    
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Personally I like the single GPU solution, and always have.

Right now, the best answer to that is the GTX580

Plus as already stated he can't run tri-SLI/Crossfire.
So thats a dead subject.

Don't show me a graph! Bench against me, with you using 2-GTX 560's in SLI, or 2-HD 6950's, and I'll use my GTX 580.
We'll then see some solid results!

Sorry Anthraxinsoup, but your posts do sound like a ATI/AMD fanboy.
Edited by Inteller - 8/21/11 at 8:55pm
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Personally I like the single GPU solution, and always have.

Right now, the best answer to that is the GTX580

Plus as already stated he can't run tri-SLI/Crossfire.
So thats a dead subject.

Don't show me a graph! Bench against me, with you using 2-GTX 560's in SLI, or 2-HD 6950's, and I'll use my GTX 580.
We'll then see some solid results!

Sorry Anthraxinsoup, but your posts do sound like a ATI/AMD fanboy.
Cause they have the best cards for 220up right now.
    
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