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His flat array uses 10 panels, the tree array has 18 or so.

80% more panels for a 20-50% gain in energy production.

The flat array may have had another 10 panels on the other side of it, but that's not how you'd ever arrange a flat array (putting half your panels facing AWAY from the sun).
Yeah, I came to the same conclusion. His tree design is also huge and uses many times more space.
    
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good start for a 13 years old kid . as you all may know, he is a kid. so maybe 10 or more years he came out with other brilliants and logic idea~
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It's crazy how efficient nature is.
After 3.5 billion years of the strong displacing the weak, it's inefficiency that surprises me, not efficiency.

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Yeah, I came to the same conclusion. His tree design is also huge and uses many times more space.
However, it will maintain more consistent output, without an active sun tracking system.
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Manufacturing this cheaply will be an issue to overcome. Congrats on the kid for exploring ideas. It will take a lot more to bring this idea to fruition.
Edited by Riou - 8/19/11 at 3:06pm
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Yeah, I came to the same conclusion. His tree design is also huge and uses many times more space.
It uses more vertical space, but not horizontal
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It seems like a conical arrangement of panels would be the best compromise in terms of manufacturability. When you have massive panels that span 24 sq. ft. or so, it's just not quite logical to arrange them in a huge tree, when you have to design it to withstand high windspeeds. Would've been a more interesting experiment if it was a bit more scientific, ie if he tracked the power generated by each individual panel, didn't have the panels like 2 feet from the side of a house and under a tree shade, etc. Still it's pretty interesting esp. for a 13 year old.


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I always thought solar cells arranged in a bunch of little pyramids across a flat sheet would work best... It's all about surface area, right?
No, that's wrong, I see why you'd think that though. Suppose you shine a flashlight on a flat surface, and one with the same brightness on a sphere. The sphere has a larger surface area, but the TOTAL light emitted on either object is the same. I won't get into it but basically the light source is 2 dimensional, the target is 2 or 3 dimensional, and the distribution of light is a Projection(calculus term) of the source onto the target.
 
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ITT: Bunch of 18+ year olds bashing a 13 year old who did a better science project than them.
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My brother is 13. He has some catching up to do, apparently.
when I was 13 I making weapons from wood and stones
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ITT: Bunch of 18+ year olds bashing a 13 year old who did a better science project than them.
You should not get into science if you are not ready for everyone to criticize your idea.
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The thing about kids is they think differently. They're not hardened and so ingrained in current ideas that they can't see new concepts. They tend to adapt much better than adults because their thought process isn't quite as structured on norms.

It is amazing, some of the best concepts come from early teenage year thinkers.
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